On Wed 05-07-17 10:35:29, Jerome Glisse wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 02:51:13PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > On Mon 03-07-17 17:14:14, Jérôme Glisse wrote: > > > HMM pages (private or public device pages) are ZONE_DEVICE page and > > > thus you can not use page->lru fields of those pages. This patch > > > re-arrange the uncharge to allow single page to be uncharge without > > > modifying the lru field of the struct page. > > > > > > There is no change to memcontrol logic, it is the same as it was > > > before this patch. > > > > What is the memcg semantic of the memory? Why is it even charged? AFAIR > > this is not a reclaimable memory. If yes how are we going to deal with > > memory limits? What should happen if go OOM? Does killing an process > > actually help to release that memory? Isn't it pinned by a device? > > > > For the patch itself. It is quite ugly but I haven't spotted anything > > obviously wrong with it. It is the memcg semantic with this class of > > memory which makes me worried. > > So i am facing 3 choices. First one not account device memory at all. > Second one is account device memory like any other memory inside a > process. Third one is account device memory as something entirely new. > > I pick the second one for two reasons. First because when migrating > back from device memory it means that migration can not fail because > of memory cgroup limit, this simplify an already complex migration > code. Second because i assume that device memory usage is a transient > state ie once device is done with its computation the most likely > outcome is memory is migrated back. From this assumption it means > that you do not want to allow a process to overuse regular memory > while it is using un-accounted device memory. It sounds safer to > account device memory and to keep the process within its memcg > boundary. > > Admittedly here i am making an assumption and i can be wrong. Thing > is we do not have enough real data of how this will be use and how > much of an impact device memory will have. That is why for now i > would rather restrict myself to either not account it or account it > as usual. > > If you prefer not accounting it until we have more experience on how > it is use and how it impacts memory resource management i am fine with > that too. It will make the migration code slightly more complex. I can see why you want to do this but the semantic _has_ to be clear. And as such make sure that the exiting task will simply unpin and invalidate all the device memory (assuming this memory is not shared which I am not sure is even possible). -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>
