On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 09:37:14AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:22:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote: > > [add linux-xfs to the fray] > > > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 06:15:35PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > > + spin_lock(&dax_lock); > > > + list_add(&d->list, &daxfiles); > > > + spin_unlock(&dax_lock); > > > + > > > + /* > > > + * We set S_SWAPFILE to gain "no truncate" / static block > > > + * allocation semantics, and S_DAXFILE so we can differentiate > > > + * traditional swapfiles and assume static block mappings in the > > > + * dax mmap path. > > > + */ > > > + inode->i_flags |= S_SWAPFILE | S_DAXFILE; > > > > Yikes. You know, I hadn't even thought about considering swap files as > > a subcase of files with immutable block maps, but here we are. Both > > swap files and DAX require absolutely stable block mappings, they are > > both (probably) intolerant of inode metadata changes (size, mtime, etc.) > > Swap files are intolerant of any metadata changes because once the > mapping has been sucked into the swapfile code, the inode is never > looked at again. DAX file data access always goes through the inode, > so they is much more tolerant of metadata changes given certain > constraints. Fair enough. > <snip bmap rant> > > > Honestly, I realize we've gone back, forth, and around all over the > > place on this. I still prefer something similar to a permanent flag, > > similar to what Dave suggested, though I hate the name PMEM_IMMUTABLE > > and some of the semantics. > > > > First, a new inode flag S_IOMAP_FROZEN that means the file's block map > > cannot change. > > I've been calling it "immutable extents" - freezing has implications > that it's only temporary (i.e. freezing filesystems) and will be > followed shortly by a thaw. That isn't the case here - we truly want > the extent/block map to be immutable.... <nod> S_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE it is, then. > > Second, some kind of function to toggle the S_IOMAP_FROZEN flag. > > Turning it on will lock the inode, check the extent map for holes, > > shared, or unwritten bits, and bail out if it finds any, or set the > > flag. > > Hmmm, I disagree on the unwritten state here. We want swap files to > be able to use unwritten extents - it means we can preallocate the > swap file and hand it straight to swapon without having to zero it > (i.e. no I/O needed to demand allocate more swap space when memory > is very low). Also, anyone who tries to read the swap file from > userspace will be reading unwritten extents, which will always > return zeros rather than whatever is in the swap file... Now I've twisted all the way around to thinking that swap files should be /totally/ unwritten, except for the file header. :) > > Not sure if we should require CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE -- probably > > yes, at least at first. I don't currently have any objection to writing > > non-iomap inode metadata out to disk. > > > > Third, the flag can only be cleared if the file isn't mapped. > > How do we check this from the fs without racing? AFAICT we can't > prevent a concurrent map operation from occurring while we are > changing the state of the inode - we can only block page faults > after then inode is mapped.... I'd thought we could coordinate that via xfs_file_mmap, but tbh my brain paged that out a while ago. > > Fourth, the VFS entry points for things like read, write, truncate, > > utimes, fallocate, etc. all just bail out if S_IOMAP_FROZEN is set on a > > file, so that the block map cannot be modified. > > mmap is still allowed, > > as we've discussed. /Maybe/ we can allow fallocate to extend a file > > with zeroed extents (it will be slow) as I've heard murmurs about > > wanting to be able to extend a file, maybe not. > > read is fine, write should be fine as long as the iomap call can > error out operations that would require extent map modifications. Ok. > fallocate should be allowed to modify the extent map, too, because > it should be the mechanism used be applications to set up file > extents in the correct form for applications to use as immutable > (i.e. lock out page faults, allocate, zero, extend and fsync in > one atomic operation).... <nod> > > Fifth, swapfiles now require the S_IOMAP_FROZEN flag since they want > > stable iomap but probably don't care about things like mtime. Maybe > > they can call iomap too. > > > > Sixth, XFS can record the S_IOMAP_FROZEN state in di_flags2 and set it > > whenever the in-core inode gets constructed. This enables us to > > prohibit reflinking and other such undesirable activity. > > *nod* > > > If we actually /do/ come up with a reference implementation for XFS, I'd > > be ok with tacking it on the end of my dev branch, which will give us a > > loooong runway to try it out. The end of the dev branch is beyond > > online XFS fsck and repair and the "root metadata btrees in inodes" > > rework; since that's ~90 patches with my name on it that I cannot also > > review, it won't go in for a long time indeed! > > I don't think it's so complex to need such a long dev time - > all the infrastructure we need is pretty much there already... It definitely is, but we've been bikeshedding so long it now has momentum. :) That said, it (and having a go at dax+reflink) are things that I'd like to look at (after pushing the scrub stuff) for the rest of the year. > > (Yes, that was also sort of a plea for someone to go review the XFS > > scrub patches.) > > > > > + return 0; > > > +} > > > + > > > +SYSCALL_DEFINE3(daxctl, const char __user *, path, int, flags, int, align) > > > > I was /about/ to grouse about this syscall, then realized that maybe it > > /is/ useful to be able to check a specific alignment. Maybe not, since > > I had something more permanent in mind anyway. In any case, just pass > > in an opened fd if this sticks around. > > We can do all that via fallocate(), too... > > Cheers, > > Dave. > -- > Dave Chinner > david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>
