On 05/24/2017 02:18 PM, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Wed 24-05-17 13:39:48, Mike Rapoport wrote: >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 09:58:06AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: >>> On 05/24/2017 09:50 AM, Mike Rapoport wrote: >>>> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: >>>>> On 05/22/2017 04:29 PM, Mike Rapoport wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Probably I didn't explained it too well. >>>>>> >>>>>> The range is intentionally not populated. When we combine pre- and >>>>>> post-copy for process migration, we create memory pre-dump without stopping >>>>>> the process, then we freeze the process without dumping the pages it has >>>>>> dirtied between pre-dump and freeze, and then, during restore, we populate >>>>>> the dirtied pages using userfaultfd. >>>>>> >>>>>> When CRIU restores a process in such scenario, it does something like: >>>>>> >>>>>> * mmap() memory region >>>>>> * fill in the pages that were collected during the pre-dump >>>>>> * do some other stuff >>>>>> * register memory region with userfaultfd >>>>>> * populate the missing memory on demand >>>>>> >>>>>> khugepaged collapses the pages in the partially populated regions before we >>>>>> have a chance to register these regions with userfaultfd, which would >>>>>> prevent the collapse. >>>>>> >>>>>> We could have used MADV_NOHUGEPAGE right after the mmap() call, and then >>>>>> there would be no race because there would be nothing for khugepaged to >>>>>> collapse at that point. But the problem is that we have no way to reset >>>>>> *HUGEPAGE flags after the memory restore is complete. >>>>> >>>>> Hmm, I wouldn't be that sure if this is indeed race-free. Check that >>>>> this scenario is indeed impossible? >>>>> >>>>> - you do the mmap >>>>> - khugepaged will choose the process' mm to scan >>>>> - khugepaged will get to the vma in question, it doesn't have >>>>> MADV_NOHUGEPAGE yet >>>>> - you set MADV_NOHUGEPAGE on the vma >>>>> - you start populating the vma >>>>> - khugepaged sees the vma is non-empty, collapses >>>>> >>>>> unless I'm wrong, the racers will have mmap_sem for reading only when >>>>> setting/checking the MADV_NOHUGEPAGE? Might be actually considered a bug. >>>>> >>>>> However, can't you use prctl(PR_SET_THP_DISABLE) instead? "If arg2 has a >>>>> nonzero value, the flag is set, otherwise it is cleared." says the >>>>> manpage. Do it before the mmap and you avoid the race as well? >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, prctl(PR_SET_THP_DISABLE) didn't help :( >>>> When I've tried to use it, I've ended up with VM_NOHUGEPAGE set on all VMAs >>>> created after prctl(). This returns me to the state when checkpoint-restore >>>> alters the application vma->vm_flags although it shouldn't and I do not see >>>> a way to fix it using existing interfaces. >>> >>> [CC linux-api, should have been done in the initial posting already] >> >> Sorry, missed that. >> >>> Hm so the prctl does: >>> >>> if (arg2) >>> me->mm->def_flags |= VM_NOHUGEPAGE; >>> else >>> me->mm->def_flags &= ~VM_NOHUGEPAGE; >>> >>> That's rather lazy implementation IMHO. Could we change it so the flag >>> is stored elsewhere in the mm, and the code that decides to (not) use >>> THP will check both the per-vma flag and the per-mm flag? >> >> I afraid I don't understand how that can help. >> What we need is an ability to temporarily disable collapse of the pages in >> VMAs that do not have VM_*HUGEPAGE flags set and that after we re-enable >> THP, the vma->vm_flags for those VMAs will remain intact. > > Why cannot khugepaged simply skip over all VMAs which have userfault > regions registered? This would sound like a less error prone approach to > me. It already does so. The problem is that there's a race window. We first populate VMA with pages, then register it in UFFD. Between these two actions khugepaged comes and generates a huge page out of populated pages and holes. And the holes in question are not, well, holes -- they should be populated later via the UFFD, while the generated huge page prevents this from happening. -- Pavel -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>
