Re: [PATCH v7 0/7] Introduce ZONE_CMA

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On 02/05/17 16:03, Michal Hocko wrote:

> I can imagine that we could make ZONE_CMA configurable in a way that
> only very well defined use cases would be supported so that we can save
> page flags space. But this alone sounds like a maintainability nightmare
> to me. Especially when I consider ZONE_DMA situation. There is simply
> not an easy way to find out whether my HW really needs DMA zone or
> not. Most probably not but it still is configured and hidden behind
> config ZONE_DMA
>         bool "DMA memory allocation support" if EXPERT
>         default y
>         help
>           DMA memory allocation support allows devices with less than 32-bit
>           addressing to allocate within the first 16MB of address space.
>           Disable if no such devices will be used.
> 
>           If unsure, say Y.
> 
> Are we really ready to add another thing like that? How are distribution
> kernels going to handle that?

In practice there are 2 quite opposite scenarios:

- distros that try to cater to (almost) everyone and are constrained in
what they can leave out

- ad-hoc builds (like Android, but also IoT) where the HW is *very* well
known upfront, because it's probably even impossible to make any change
that doesn't involved a rework station.

So maybe the answer is to not have only EXPERT, but rather DISTRO/CUSTOM
with the implications these can bring.

A generic build would assume to be a DISTRO type, but something else, of
more embedded persuasion, could do otherwise.

ZONE_DMA / ZONE_DMA32 actually seem to be perfect candidates for being
replaced by something else, when unused, as I proposed on Friday:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=149337033630993&w=2


It might still be that only some cases would be upstreamable, even after
these changes.

But at least some of those might be useful also for non-Android/ non-IoT
scenarios.


---
igor

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