On 2017/3/17 7:49, Jerome Glisse wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 01:43:21PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:05:19 -0400 J__r__me Glisse <jglisse@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Cliff note: >> >> "Cliff's notes" isn't appropriate for a large feature such as this. >> Where's the long-form description? One which permits readers to fully >> understand the requirements, design, alternative designs, the >> implementation, the interface(s), etc? >> >> Have you ever spoken about HMM at a conference? If so, the supporting >> presentation documents might help here. That's the level of detail >> which should be presented here. > > Longer description of patchset rational, motivation and design choices > were given in the first few posting of the patchset to which i included > a link in my cover letter. Also given that i presented that for last 3 > or 4 years to mm summit and kernel summit i thought that by now peoples > were familiar about the topic and wanted to spare them the long version. > My bad. > > I attach a patch that is a first stab at a Documentation/hmm.txt that > explain the motivation and rational behind HMM. I can probably add a > section about how to use HMM from device driver point of view. > Please, that would be very helpful! > +3) Share address space and migration > + > +HMM intends to provide two main features. First one is to share the address > +space by duplication the CPU page table into the device page table so same > +address point to same memory and this for any valid main memory address in > +the process address space. Is this an optional feature? I mean the device don't have to duplicate the CPU page table. But only make use of the second(migration) feature. > +The second mechanism HMM provide is a new kind of ZONE_DEVICE memory that does > +allow to allocate a struct page for each page of the device memory. Those page > +are special because the CPU can not map them. They however allow to migrate > +main memory to device memory using exhisting migration mechanism and everything > +looks like if page was swap out to disk from CPU point of view. Using a struct > +page gives the easiest and cleanest integration with existing mm mechanisms. > +Again here HMM only provide helpers, first to hotplug new ZONE_DEVICE memory > +for the device memory and second to perform migration. Policy decision of what > +and when to migrate things is left to the device driver. > + > +Note that any CPU acess to a device page trigger a page fault which initiate a > +migration back to system memory so that CPU can access it. A bit confused here, do you mean CPU access to a main memory page but that page has been migrated to device memory? Then a page fault will be triggered and initiate a migration back. Thanks, Bob -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>