Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] slab reclaim

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On 01/02/2017 12:02 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Wed 28-12-16 14:09:51, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> I would like to propose the following for LSF/MM discussion. Both MM and
>> FS people should be involved.
>>
>> The current way of the slab reclaim is rather suboptimal from 2
>> perspectives.
>>
>> 1) The slab allocator relies on shrinkers to release pages but shrinkers
>> are object rather than page based. This means that the memory reclaim
>> asks to free some pages, slab asks shrinkers to free some objects
>> and the result might be that nothing really gets freed even though
>> shrinkers do their jobs properly because some objects are still pinning
>> the page. This is not a new problem and it has been discussed in the
>> past. Dave Chinner has even suggested a solution [1] which sounds like
>> the right approach. There was no follow up and I believe we should
>> into implementing it.
>>
>> 2) The way we scale slab reclaim pressure depends on the regular LRU
>> reclaim. There are workloads which do not general a lot of pages on LRUs
>> while they still consume a lot of slab memory. We can end up even going
>> OOM because the slab reclaim doesn't free up enough. I am not really
>> sure how the proper solution should look like but either we need some
>> way of slab consumption throttling or we need a more clever slab
>> pressure estimation.
>>
>> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/2/8/329.
> 
> I'm interested in this topic although I think it currently needs more
> coding and experimenting than discussions...

Yeah, some of the related stuff that was discussed at Kernel Summit [1]
would be nice to have at least prototyped, i.e. the dentry cache
separation and the slab helper for providing objects on the same page?

[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/705758/

> 
> 								Honza
> 

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