On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 27-07-16 10:28:40, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, NeilBrown wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jul 26 2016, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 23 Jul 2016, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "dirtying ... from the reclaim context" ??? What does that mean?
> > > >> According to
> > > >> Commit: 26eecbf3543b ("[PATCH] vm: pageout throttling")
> > > >> From the history tree, the purpose of throttle_vm_writeout() is to
> > > >> limit the amount of memory that is concurrently under I/O.
> > > >> That seems strange to me because I thought it was the responsibility of
> > > >> each backing device to impose a limit - a maximum queue size of some
> > > >> sort.
> > > >
> > > > Device mapper doesn't impose any limit for in-flight bios.
> > >
> > > I would suggest that it probably should. At least it should
> > > "set_wb_congested()" when the number of in-flight bios reaches some
> > > arbitrary threshold.
> >
> > If we set the device mapper device as congested, it can again trigger that
> > mempool alloc throttling bug.
> >
> > I.e. suppose that we swap to a dm-crypt device. The dm-crypt device
> > becomes clogged and sets its state as congested. The underlying block
> > device is not congested.
> >
> > The mempool_alloc function in the dm-crypt workqueue sets the
> > PF_LESS_THROTTLE flag, and tries to allocate memory, but according to
> > Michal's patches, processes with PF_LESS_THROTTLE may still get throttled.
> >
> > So if we set the dm-crypt device as congested, it can incorrectly throttle
> > the dm-crypt workqueue that does allocations of temporary pages and
> > encryption.
> >
> > I think that approach with PF_LESS_THROTTLE in mempool_alloc is incorrect
> > and that mempool allocations should never be throttled.
>
> I'm not really sure this is the right approach. If a particular mempool
> user cannot ever be throttled by the page allocator then it should
> perform GFP_NOWAIT.
Then, all block device drivers should have GFP_NOWAIT - which means that
we can as well make it default.
But GFP_NOWAIT also disables direct reclaim. We really want direct reclaim
when allocating from mempool - we just don't want to throttle due to block
device congestion.
We could use __GFP_NORETRY as an indication that we don't want to sleep -
or make a new flag __GFP_NO_THROTTLE.
> Even mempool allocations shouldn't allow reclaim to
> scan pages too quickly even when LRU lists are full of dirty pages. But
> as I've said that would restrict the success rates even under light page
> cache load. Throttling on the wait_iff_congested should be quite rare.
>
> Anyway do you see an excessive throttling with the patch posted
> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20160725192344.GD2166@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ? Or from
It didn't have much effect.
Since the patch 4e390b2b2f34b8daaabf2df1df0cf8f798b87ddb (revert of the
limitless mempool allocations), swapping to dm-crypt works in the simple
example.
> another side. Do you see an excessive number of dirty/writeback pages
> wrt. the dirty threshold or any other undesirable side effects?
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
I also got got dmcrypt stalled in bt_get when submitting I/Os to the
underlying virtio device. I don't know what could be done about it.
[ 30.441074] dmcrypt_write D ffff88003de7bba8 0 2155 2 0x00080000
[ 30.441956] ffff88003de7bba8 ffff88003de7be70 ffff88003de7c000 ffff88003fc34740
[ 30.442934] 7fffffffffffffff ffff88003fc3a680 ffff880037a911f8 ffff88003de7bbc0
[ 30.443969] ffffffff812770df 7fffffffffffffff ffff88003de7bc10 ffffffff81278ca7
[ 30.444926] Call Trace:
[ 30.445232] [<ffffffff812770df>] schedule+0x83/0x98
[ 30.445825] [<ffffffff81278ca7>] schedule_timeout+0x2f/0xcf
[ 30.446506] [<ffffffff81276c84>] io_schedule_timeout+0x64/0x90
[ 30.447235] [<ffffffff81276c84>] ? io_schedule_timeout+0x64/0x90
[ 30.448088] [<ffffffff8115787a>] bt_get+0x11a/0x1bc
[ 30.448688] [<ffffffff8105ef86>] ? wake_up_atomic_t+0x25/0x25
[ 30.449392] [<ffffffff81157abb>] blk_mq_get_tag+0x7e/0x9b
[ 30.450041] [<ffffffff81155066>] __blk_mq_alloc_request+0x1b/0x1e0
[ 30.450805] [<ffffffff81155ee8>] blk_mq_map_request+0xf6/0x136
[ 30.451516] [<ffffffff81156866>] blk_sq_make_request+0xac/0x173
[ 30.452322] [<ffffffff8114db56>] generic_make_request+0xb8/0x15b
[ 30.453038] [<ffffffffa012ba65>] dmcrypt_write+0x13b/0x174 [dm_crypt]
[ 30.453852] [<ffffffff81052779>] ? wake_up_q+0x42/0x42
[ 30.454508] [<ffffffffa012b92a>] ? crypt_iv_tcw_dtr+0x62/0x62 [dm_crypt]
[ 30.455369] [<ffffffff8104dc6a>] kthread+0xa0/0xa8
[ 30.456041] [<ffffffff8104dc6a>] ? kthread+0xa0/0xa8
[ 30.456688] [<ffffffff8127999f>] ret_from_fork+0x1f/0x40
[ 30.457396] [<ffffffff8104dbca>] ? init_completion+0x24/0x24
Mikulas
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