Re: memory fragmentation issues on 4.4

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On 03/28/2016 01:55 PM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2016/03/28 18:14, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On kernel 4.4 I observe that the memory gets really fragmented fairly
>> quickly. E.g. there are no order  > 4 pages even after 2 days of uptime.
>> This leads to certain data structures on XFS (in my case order 4/order 5
>> allocations)  not being allocated and causes the server to stall. When
>> this happens either someone has to log on the server and manually invoke
>> the memory compaction or plain reboot the server. Before that the server
>> was running with the exact same workload but with 3.12.52 kernel and no
>> such issue were observed. That is - memory was fragmented but allocation
>> didn't fail, maybe alloc_pages_direct_compact was doing a better job?
> 
> I'm not a mm person. But currently the page allocator does not give up
> unless there is no reclaimable zones. That would be the reason the allocation
> did not fail but caused the system to stall. It is interesting for mm people
> if you can try, apart from your fragmentation issue, running linux-next kernel
> which includes OOM detection rework ( https://lwn.net/Articles/667939/ ).

I don't think that this would have helped since the machine didn't run
out of memory rather memory was so fragmented that an order 5 allocation
could not be satisfied. Which I think means no OOM logic would have been
triggered.

Actually the allocation did fail but was infinitely retried by merit of
the logic in kmem_alloc. So in this case kmalloc was returning a NULL-ptr.


> 
>>
>> FYI the allocation is performed with GFP_KERNEL | GFP_NOFS
> 
> Excuse me, but GFP_KERNEL is GFP_NOFS | __GFP_FS, and therefore
> GFP_KERNEL | GFP_NOFS is GFP_KERNEL. What did you mean?

Right, so it's : (GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NOWARN) &= ~__GFP_FS

> 
>>
>>
>> Manual compaction usually does the job, however I'm wondering why isn't
>> invoking __alloc_pages_direct_compact from within __alloc_pages_nodemask
>> satisfying the request if manual compaction would do the job. Is there a
>> difference in the efficiency of manually invoking memory compaction and
>> the one invoked from the page allocator path?
>>
>>
>> Another question for my own satisfaction - I created a kernel module
>> which allocate pages of very high order - 8/9) then later when those
>> pages are returned I see the number of unmovable pages increase by the
>> amount of pages returned. So should freed pages go to the unmovable
>> category?
>>
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