Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: page allocator: Update free page counters after pages are placed on the free list

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On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:21:15AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Hi, Mel.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Mel Gorman <mel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > When allocating a page, the system uses NR_FREE_PAGES counters to determine
> > if watermarks would remain intact after the allocation was made. This
> > check is made without interrupts disabled or the zone lock held and so is
> > race-prone by nature. Unfortunately, when pages are being freed in batch,
> > the counters are updated before the pages are added on the list. During this
> > window, the counters are misleading as the pages do not exist yet. When
> > under significant pressure on systems with large numbers of CPUs, it's
> > possible for processes to make progress even though they should have been
> > stalled. This is particularly problematic if a number of the processes are
> > using GFP_ATOMIC as the min watermark can be accidentally breached and in
> > extreme cases, the system can livelock.
> >
> > This patch updates the counters after the pages have been added to the
> > list. This makes the allocator more cautious with respect to preserving
> > the watermarks and mitigates livelock possibilities.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Page free path looks good by your patch.
> 

Thanks

> Now allocation path decrease NR_FREE_PAGES _after_ it remove pages from buddy.
> It can make that actually we don't have enough pages in buddy but
> pretend to have enough pages.
> It could make same situation with free path which is your concern.
> So I think it can confuse watermark check in extreme case.
> 
> So don't we need to consider _allocation_ path with conservative?
> 

I considered it and it would be desirable. The downside was that the
paths became more complicated. Take rmqueue_bulk() for example. It could
start by modifying the counters but there then needs to be a recovery
path if all the requested pages were not allocated.

It'd be nice to see if these patches on their own were enough to
alleviate the worst of the per-cpu-counter drift before adding new
branches to the allocation path.

Does that make sense?

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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