On Wed, 19 May 2010, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > > Good point. This discard flag might do the trick and let us keep things simple. > The major concern here is to keep the page cache disturbance relatively low. > Which of new page allocation or stealing back the page has the lowest overhead > would have to be determined with benchmarks. We could probably make it easier somehow to do the writeback and discard thing, but I have had _very_ good experiences with even a rather trivial file writer that basically used (iirc) 8MB windows, and the logic was very trivial: - before writing a new 8M window, do "start writeback" (SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) on the previous window, and do a wait (SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_AFTER) on the window before that. in fact, in its simplest form, you can do it like this (this is from my "overwrite disk images" program that I use on old disks): for (index = 0; index < max_index ;index++) { if (write(fd, buffer, BUFSIZE) != BUFSIZE) break; /* This won't block, but will start writeout asynchronously */ sync_file_range(fd, index*BUFSIZE, BUFSIZE, SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE); /* This does a blocking write-and-wait on any old ranges */ if (index) sync_file_range(fd, (index-1)*BUFSIZE, BUFSIZE, SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_BEFORE|SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE|SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_AFTER); } and even if you don't actually do a discard (maybe we should add a SYNC_FILE_RANGE_DISCARD bit, right now you'd need to do a separate fadvise(FADV_DONTNEED) to throw it out) the system behavior is pretty nice, because the heavy writer gets good IO performance _and_ leaves only easy-to-free pages around after itself. Linus -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxx For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>