On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 14:52 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: (Adding linux-arch) > This check was introduced the following commit. yes now we don't > consider arch specific PROT_xx flags. but I don't think it is odd. > > Yeah, I can imagine at least embedded people certenary need arch > specific PROT_xx flags and they hope to change it. but I don't > think mprotect() fit for your usage. I mean mprotect() is widely > used glibc internally. then, If mprotec can change which flags, > glibc might turn off such flags implictly. > > So, Why can't we proper new syscall? It has no regression risk. I don't care much personally whether we use mprotect() or a new syscall, but at this stage we already have PROT_SAO going that way for powerpc so that would be an ABI change. However, the main issue isn't really there. The main issue is that right now, everything we do in mmap.c, mprotect.c, ... revolves around having everything translated into the single vm_flags field. VMA merging decisions, construction of vm_page_prot, etc... everything is there. However, this is a 32-bit field on 32-bit archs, and we already use all possible bits in there. It's also a field entirely defined in generic code with no provision for arch specific bits. The question here thus boils down to what direction do we want to go to if we want to untangle that and provide the ability to expose mapping "attributes" basically. In fact, I suspect even x86 might have good use of that to create things like relaxed ordering mappings no ? This boils down, so far to a few facts/questions to be resolved: - Do we want to use the existing PROT_ argument to mmap, mprotect,... ? There's plenty of bit space, and we already have at least one example of an arch adding something to it (powerpc with PROT_SAO - aka Strong Access Ordering - aka Make It Look Like An x86 :-) - If not, while a separate syscall would be fine with me for setting attributes after the fact, it makes it harder to pass them via mmap, is that a big deal ? IE. Ie it means one -always- has to call it after mmap to change the attributes. That means for example that mmap will potentially create a VMA merged with another one, just to be re-split due to the attribute change. A bit gross... - Do we want to keep the current "Funnel everything into vm_flags" approach ? That leaves no option that I can see but to extend it into a u64 so it grows on 32-bit archs. - If not, I see two approaches here: Either having a separate / new "attribute" field in the VMA or going straight for the vm_page_prot (ie. the pgprot). In both cases, things like vma_merge() need to grow a new argument since obviously we can't merge things with different attributes. - ... Unless we just replace VM_SAO with VM_CANT_MERGE and set that whenever a VMA has a non-0 attributes. Sad but simpler Any other / better idea ? Cheers, Ben. -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxx For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>