Re: [PATCH 1/8] get_dvb_firmware: Add firmware extractor for si2165

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On 07/29/2014 10:22 PM, Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
On 29.07.2014 13:34, Antti Palosaari wrote:


On 07/29/2014 11:53 AM, Antonio Ospite wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:37:44 +0200
Matthias Schwarzott <zzam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 23.07.2014 22:10, Antonio Ospite wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:03:14 +0200
Matthias Schwarzott <zzam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[...]
The crc value:
It protects the content of the file until it is in the demod - so
calculating it on my own would only check if the data is correctly
transferred from the driver into the chip.
But for this I needed to know the algorithm and which data is
checksummed exactly.

Are the different algorithms for CRC values that give 16 bit of
output?


You could try jacksum[1] and see if any algorithm it supports
gives you the expected result, there is a handful of 16 bits ones:

    jacksum -a all -F "#ALGONAME{i} = #CHECKSUM{i}" payload.bin

Hi Antonio,

I tried jacksum on the complete firmware and on parts - but it never
matched the results from the chip.

I now found out, that the crc register changes after every 32bit write
to the data register - the fw control registers do not affect it.

So I can try what crc results from writing 32bit portions of data.
But even that did not help in guessing the algorithm, because I do not
want to do 100s of experiments.

some of my experiments:
crc=0x0000, data=0x00000000 -> crc=0x0000
crc=0x0000, data=0x00000001 -> crc=0x1021
crc=0x0000, data=0x00000002 -> crc=0x2042
crc=0x0000, data=0x00000004 -> crc=0x4084
crc=0x0000, data=0x00000008 -> crc=0x8108
crc=0x0000, data=0x00000010 -> crc=0x1231

Is there some systematic way to get the formula?

I don't know much about crc, but the values you are getting look like
the entries in the table in lib/crc-itu-t.c so maybe compare the crc
you are getting with the ones calculated with crc_itu_t() from
include/linux/crc-itu-t.h

I just did a quick test with jacksum, the crc-itu-t parameters can
be expressed like this:

     jacksum -x -a crc:16,1021,0,false,false,0 -q 00000010

and the output is the expected 0x1231 for the 0x00000010 sequence.

maybe crc = crc + crc(val)

It worked to apply crc_itu_t to the written data in 32bit blocks,
but starting with the last byte:

			crc = crc_itu_t_byte(crc, *(data+offset+3));
			crc = crc_itu_t_byte(crc, *(data+offset+2));
			crc = crc_itu_t_byte(crc, *(data+offset+1));
			crc = crc_itu_t_byte(crc, *(data+offset+0));

It would also have worked without knowing the crc because it is only
actively read and compared in the driver - but better to know if upload
did work.

Now I am still not sure if it is worth to change the firmware file to
now have the crc explicitly.
Counting blocks is also easy todo.
But the firmware version is not inside the data I think.

So there will still remain something to be added to the raw data.

Do you need to know whole firmware version? How did you obtain it, from sniff? What happens if you don't tell fw version to chip at all?

Usually, almost 100%, firmware version as well all the other needed information, is included to firmware image itself. I don't remember many cases where special handling is needed. One (only one?) of such case is af9013, where I resolved issues by calculating fw checksum by the driver. IIRC chip didn't boot if there was wrong checksum for fw.

Own headers and checksums causes troubles if I someone would like to extract different firmwares from various windows binaries to test.

If windows driver needs to know that kind of things, those are usually found very near firmware image from the driver binary. Most often just dump 32 bytes after firmware image and it is somewhere there. Or before firmware image. That is because those are values are stored to same source code file => compiler puts that stuff ~same location.

static const unsigned char firmware[] = {
  0x00,0x11,0x22,0x33,0x44,0x55,0x66,0x77,
  0x88,0x99,0xaa,0xbb,0xcc,0xdd,0xee,0xff,
};

static const unsigned int firmware_checksum = 0x01234567;
static const unsigned int firmware_version = 0x0000002b;

regards
Antti
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