On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL()? Same goes for all of the exports in here. >> >> > Traditionally all of the driver core exports have been with this >> >> > marking, any objection to making that change here as well? >> >> >> >> tbh, I prefer EXPORT_SYMBOL().. well, I'd prefer even more if there >> >> wasn't even a need for EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(), but sadly it is a fact of >> >> life. We already went through this debate once with dma-buf. We >> >> aren't going to change $evil_vendor's mind about non-gpl modules. The >> >> only result will be a more flugly convoluted solution (ie. use syncpt >> >> EXPORT_SYMBOL() on top of fence EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL()) just as a >> >> workaround, with the result that no-one benefits. >> > >> > It has been proven that using _GPL() exports have caused companies to >> > release their code "properly" over the years, so as these really are >> > Linux-only apis, please change them to be marked this way, it helps >> > everyone out in the end. >> >> Well, maybe that is the true in some cases. But it certainly didn't >> work out that way for dma-buf. And I think the end result is worse. >> >> I don't really like coming down on the side of EXPORT_SYMBOL() instead >> of EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(), but if we do use EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL() then the >> result will only be creative workarounds using the _GPL symbols >> indirectly by whatever is available via EXPORT_SYMBOL(). I don't >> really see how that will be better. > > You are saying that you _know_ companies will violate our license, so > you should just "give up"? And how do you know people aren't working on > preventing those "indirect" usages as well? :) > > Sorry, I'm not going to give up here, again, it has proven to work in > the past in changing the ways of _very_ large companies, why stop now? Dave should chime in here since currently dma-buf is _GPL and the drm_prime.c wrapper for it is not (and he merged that one, contributed from said $vendor). And since we're gfx people everything we do is MIT licensed (that's where X is from after all), so _GPL for for drm stuff really doesn't make a lot of sense for us. ianal and all that applies. -Daniel -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html