Hi Tony, On Friday 13 June 2014 04:10:12 Tony Lindgren wrote: > * Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [140613 03:30]: > > On Friday 13 June 2014 00:53:25 Tony Lindgren wrote: > > > * Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [140612 23:48]: > > > > On Thursday 12 June 2014 22:30:44 Tony Lindgren wrote: > > > > > 1. They live in separate hardware modules that can be clocked > > > > > separately > > > > > > > > Actually I don't think that's true. The CSI2 PHY is part of the camera > > > > device, with all its registers but the one above in the camera device > > > > register space. For some weird reason a couple of bits were pushed to > > > > the control module, but that doesn't make the CSI2 PHY itself a > > > > separate device. > > > > > > Yes they are separate. Anything in the system control module is > > > a separate hardware module from the other devices. So in this case > > > the CSI2 PHY is part of the system control module, not the camera > > > module. > > > > Section 8.2.3 ("ISS CSI2 PHY") of the OMAP4460 TRM (revision AA) documents > > the CSI2 PHY is being part of the ISS, with three PHY registers in the > > ISS register space (not counting the PHY interrupt and status bits in > > several other ISS registers) and one register in the system control > > module register space. It's far from clear which power domain(s) is (are) > > involved. > > OK I see. The register in the system control module just contains some > pin and clock related resources for the phy. And the configuration of the PHY mode (CCP2, CSI1 or CSI2). It really seems like random bits :-) > > > > > 2. Doing a read-back to flush a posted write in one hardware module > > > > > most likely won't flush the write to other and that can lead into > > > > > hard to find mysterious bugs > > > > > > > > The OMAP4 ISS driver can just read back the CAMERA_RX register, can't > > > > it ? > > > > > > Right, but you would have to do readbacks both from the phy register and > > > camera register to ensure writes get written. It's best to keep the > > > logic completely separate especially considering that they can be > > > clocked separately. > > > > > > > > 3. If we ever have a common system control module driver, we need to > > > > > rewrite all the system control module register tinkering in the > > > > > drivers > > > > > > > > Sure, but that's already the case today, as the OMAP4 ISS driver > > > > already accesses the control module register directly. I won't make > > > > that worse :-) > > > > > > Well it's in staging for a reason :) > > > > > > > > So it's best to try to use an existing framework for it. That avoids > > > > > tons of pain later on ;) > > > > > > > > I agree, but I don't think the PHY framework would be the right > > > > abstraction. As explained above the CSI2 PHY is part of the OMAP4 ISS, > > > > so modeling its single control module register as a PHY would be a > > > > hack. > > > > > > Well that register belongs to the system control module, not the > > > camera module. It's not like the camera IO space is out of registers > > > or something! :) > > > > The PHY has 3 registers in the ISS I/O space and one register in the > > control module I/O space. I have no idea why they've split it that way. > > The clock enable bits are especially "interested", the source clock > > (CAM_PHY_CTRL_FCLK) comes from the ISS as documented in section 8.1.1 > > ("ISS Integration"), is gated by the control module (the gated clock is > > called CTRLCLK) and then goes back to the ISS CSI2 PHY (it's mentioned in > > the CSI2 PHY "REGISTER1" documentation). > > > > > We're already handling similar control module phy cases, see for > > > example drivers/phy/phy-omap-control.c. Maybe you have most of the > > > code already there? > > > > I'm afraid not. For PHYs that are in the system control module that > > solution is perfectly fine, but the CSI2 PHY isn't (or at least not all > > of it). > > > > I would be fine with writing a separate PHY driver if the PHY was > > completely separate. As the documentation doesn't make it clear which > > part of the hardware belongs to which module, matching the software > > implementation with an unknown hardware implementation would be pretty > > difficult :-) > > Yeah it seems the phy driver would still have to use the pin resources > in the system control module. > > > If you have a couple of minutes to spare and can look at the CSI2 PHY > > documentation in the TRM, you might be more successful than me figuring > > out how the hardware is implemented. > > Took a look and it seems the phy is split into two parts. So probably > using the syscon mapping for the register in scm are is a good start. > At least then there's some protection from drivers tinkering directly > with the system control modules. That's my plan. > Maybe s ee what drivers/regulator/pbias-regulator.c is doing with > syscon to see if that works? Moving that to some phy driver later on > should be trivial if needed :) I'll have a look, but I'm not sure whether the same approach will be possible. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html