Hi Guennadi and Mauro, On Tuesday 08 October 2013 23:57:55 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote: > Hi Mauro, > > Thanks for your long detailed mail. For the sake of brevity however I'll > drop most of it in this my reply, everybody interested should be able to > read the original. > > On Wed, 9 Oct 2013, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > [snip] > > > In other words, what you're actually proposing is to change the default > > used by most drivers since 1997 from a POWER ON/CLOCK ON default, into a > > POWER OFF/ CLOCK OFF default. > > To remind, we are now trying to fix a problem, present in the current > kernel. In one specific driver. And the proposed fix only affects one > specific (family of) driver(s) - the em28xx USB driver. The two patches > are quite simple: > > (1) the first patch adds a clock to the em28xx driver, which only > affects ov2640, because only it uses that clock > > (2) the second patch adds a call to subdev's .s_power(1) method. And I > cannot see how this change can be a problem either. Firstly I haven't > found many subdevices, used by em28xx, that implement .s_power(). > Secondly, I don't think any of them does any kind of depth-counting in > that method, apart from the one, that we're trying to fix - ov2640. > > > Well, for me, it sounds that someone will need to re-test all supported > > devices, to be sure that such change won't cause regressions. > > > > If you are willing to do such tests (and to get all those hardware to be > > sure that nothing will break) or to find someone to do it for you, I'm ok > > with such change. > > I'm willing to try to identify all subdevices, used by em28xx, look at > their .s_power() methods and report my analysis, whether calling > .s_power(1) for those respective drivers could cause problems. Would this > suffice? >From a high level point of view, I believe that's the way to go. V4L2 clock enable/disable calls must be balanced, as we will later switch to the non-V4L2 clock API that requires calls to be balanced. This pushes the problem back to the .s_power() implementation that call the clock enable/disable functions. As a temporary measure, we could add a use count to the .s_power() handlers of drivers used by both power-unbalanced and power-balanced bridges that call the clock API or the regulator API in their .s_power() implementation (that's just ov2640 if I'm not mistaken). This would ensure that clock calls are always balanced, even if the .s_power() calls are not. Now I'd like to avoid that as possible: In the long term I believe we should switch all .s_power() calls to balanced mode, a detailed analysis of the subdevices used by em28xx would thus have my preference. However, if it helps solving the issue right now, buying us time to fix the problem correctly, I could live with it. > > Otherwise, we should stick with the present behavior, as otherwise we will > > cause regressions. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html