Re: [PATCH RFCv10 00/15] DVB QoS statistics API

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On 01/17/2013 08:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0530
Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu:

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari <crope@xxxxxx> wrote:



Resetting counters when user tunes channel sounds the only correct option.


This might not be correct, especially when we have true Multiple Input Streams.
The tune might be single, but the filter setup would be different. In
which case it
wouldn't correct to do a reset of the counters ona tune. Resetting the counters
should be the responsibility of the driver.

I moved the counters reset to the driver's logic on v11. I'm posting the
patches in a few.

As I said in an earlier
post, anything
other than the driver handling any statistical event monitoring, such an API is
broken for sure, without even reading single line of code for that API for which
  it is written for.

Yes, driver should have full control on it.

OK, maybe we will see in near future if that works well or not. I think that
for calculating of PER it is required to start continuous polling to keep up
total block counters. Maybe updating UCB counter continously needs that too,
so it should work.


With multi-standard demodulators, some of them PER compute is a by-product
of some internal demodulator algorithmic operation. In some cases, it might
require a loop in the driver. As I said, again; It is very hard/wrong
to do basic
generalizations.

Agreed.


I think we will have soon kinda consensus everyone could approve! Anyhow, I didn't liked that kind of PATCH RFC process. That change was too big for PATCH style RFC and it was hard to keep track what going on looking those patches. Maybe requirement specification RFCs first and when requirements are clear => PATCH RFC for implementation.

What I know understand, requirements are:

signal strength:
==============
Offer both discussed methods.
Simple [0...n] scale and dB...
Driver must support simple scale over dB.

CNR (SNR)
==============
Offer both discussed methods.
Simple [0...n] scale and dB...
Driver must support simple scale over dB.

BER
==============
Offer global BER and per layer BER.
Measure is returned as two numbers, one for error bit count and one for total bit count.

uncorrected packets/blocks
==============
Offer global UCB and per layer UCB.
Measure is returned as two numbers, one for uncorrected packet count and one for total packet count.

counter reset
==============
counters are reset when channel is tuned



And if we end up returning "simple" values over dB values, then I think driver could be simple and implement only dB and dvb-core is responsible to convert dB => simple. That should quite be possible as we know which dB value is good signal and which is bad signal.


Are these requirements now in line what is spoken?

regards
Antti

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