Re: [PATCH 1/6 v4] media: V4L2: support asynchronous subdevice registration

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Hi Laurent,

On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:41:59PM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Sylwester,
> 
> On Tuesday 08 January 2013 12:37:36 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> > On 01/08/2013 11:35 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >>>>> If we need a workaround, I'd rather pass the device name in addition
> > >>>>> to the I2C adapter number and address, instead of embedding the
> > >>>>> workaround in this new API.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> ...or we can change the I2C subdevice name format. The actual need to
> > >>>> do
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 	snprintf(clk_name, sizeof(clk_name), "%s %d-%04x",
> > >>>> 		 asdl->dev->driver->name,
> > >>>> 		 i2c_adapter_id(client->adapter), client->addr);
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> in soc-camera now to exactly match the subdevice name, as created by
> > >>>> v4l2_i2c_subdev_init(), doesn't make me specifically happy either. What
> > >>>> if the latter changes at some point? Or what if one driver wishes to
> > >>>> create several subdevices for one I2C device?
> > >>> 
> > >>> The common clock framework uses %d-%04x, maybe we could use that as well
> > >>> for clock names ?
> > >> 
> > >> And preserve the subdevice names? Then matching would be more difficult
> > >> and less precise. Or change subdevice names too? I think, we can do the
> > >> latter, since anyway at any time only one driver can be attached to an
> > >> I2C device.
> > > 
> > > That's right. Where else is the subdev name used ?
> > 
> > Subdev names are exposed to user space by the media controller API.
> > So they are really part of an ABI, aren't they ?
> 
> They're used to construct the name exposed to userspace, but the media 
> controller core could probably handle that internally by concatenating the 
> driver name and the subdev name.
> 
> > Also having I2C bus number or I2C slave address as part of the subdev
> > name makes it more difficult to write portable applications. Hence
> > in sensor drivers I used to overwrite subdev name to remove I2C bus
> > and slave address, as the format used v4l2_i2c_subdev_init() seemed
> > highly unsuitable..
> 
> This clearly shows that we need to discuss the matter and agree on a common 
> mode of operation.
> 
> Aren't applications that use the subdev name directly inherently non-portable 
> anyway ? If you want your application to support different boards/sensors/SoCs 

Well, the name could come from a configuration file to distinguish e.g.
between primary and secondary sensors.

For what it's worth, the SMIA++ driver uses the actual name of the sensor
since there are about 10 sensors supported at the moment, and calling them
all smiapp-xxxx looks a bit insipid. So one has to talk to the sensor to
know what it's called.

This isn't strictly mandatory but a nice feature.

> you should discover the pipeline and find the sensor by iterating over 
> entities, instead of using the sensor entity name.

To be fully generic, yes.

-- 
Cheers,

Sakari Ailus
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