On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 08:30:04PM +0100, Sylwester Nawrocki wrote: > On 11/28/2012 01:22 PM, Dan Carpenter wrote: > > In the end this is just a driver, and I don't especially care. But > > it's like not just this one which makes me frustrated. I really > > believe in linux-next and I think everything should spend a couple > > weeks there before being merged. > > Couple of weeks in linux-next plus a couple of weeks of final patch > series version awaiting to being reviewed and picked up by a maintainer > makes almost entire kernel development cycle. These are huge additional > delays, especially in the embedded world. Things like these certainly > aren't encouraging for moving over from out-of-tree to the mainline > development process. And in this case we are talking only about merging > driver to the staging tree... Yeah. A couple weeks is probably too long. But I think a week is totally reasonable. You have the process wrong. The maintainer reviews it first, merges it into his -next git tree. It sits in linux-next for a bit. The merge window opens up. It is merged. It gets tested for 3 months. It is released. It should work as a continuous even flow. It shouldn't be a rush to submit drivers right before the merge window opens. It's not hard, you can submit a driver to linux-next at any time. It magically flows through the process and is released some months later. It does suck to add a 3 month delay for people who miss the cut off. Don't wait until the last minute. In the embedded world you can use git cherry-pick to get the driver from linux-next. regards, dan carpenter -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html