Em Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:41:57 +0400 Alexey Klimov <klimov.linux@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > Hi Mauro, Hans, all, > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Em Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:47:49 +0100 > > Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > > > >> On Fri November 2 2012 14:13:10 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > >> > Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:12:44 -0200 > >> > Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > >> > > >> > > Em Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:44:50 +0100 > >> > > Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > >> > > > >> > > > On Thu October 25 2012 19:27:01 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > >> > > > > Hi Hans, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Em Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:35:56 +0200 > >> > > > > Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> escreveu: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all, > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > This is the tentative agenda for the media workshop on November 8, 2012. > >> > > > > > If you have additional things that you want to discuss, or something is wrong > >> > > > > > or incomplete in this list, please let me know so I can update the list. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thank you for taking care of it. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > - Explain current merging process (Mauro) > >> > > > > > - Open floor for discussions on how to improve it (Mauro) > >> > > > > > - Write down minimum requirements for new V4L2 (and DVB?) drivers, both for > >> > > > > > staging and mainline acceptance: which frameworks to use, v4l2-compliance, > >> > > > > > etc. (Hans Verkuil) > >> > > > > > - V4L2 ambiguities (Hans Verkuil) > >> > > > > > - TSMux device (a mux rather than a demux): Alain Volmat > >> > > > > > - dmabuf status, esp. with regards to being able to test (Mauro/Samsung) > >> > > > > > - Device tree support (Guennadi, not known yet whether this topic is needed) > >> > > > > > - Creating/selecting contexts for hardware that supports this (Samsung, only > >> > > > > > if time is available) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I have an extra theme for discussions there: what should we do with the drivers > >> > > > > that don't have any MAINTAINERS entry. > >> > > > > >> > > > I've added this topic to the list. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks! > >> > > > >> > > > > It probably makes sense to mark them as "Orphan" (or, at least, have some > >> > > > > criteria to mark them as such). Perhaps before doing that, we could try > >> > > > > to see if are there any developer at the community with time and patience > >> > > > > to handle them. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > This could of course be handled as part of the discussions about how to improve > >> > > > > the merge process, but I suspect that this could generate enough discussions > >> > > > > to be handled as a separate theme. > >> > > > > >> > > > Do we have a 'Maintainer-Light' category? I have a lot of hardware that I can > >> > > > test. So while I wouldn't like to be marked as 'The Maintainer of driver X' > >> > > > (since I simply don't have the time for that), I wouldn't mind being marked as > >> > > > someone who can at least test patches if needed. > >> > > > >> > > There are several "maintainance" status there: > >> > > > >> > > S: Status, one of the following: > >> > > Supported: Someone is actually paid to look after this. > >> > > Maintained: Someone actually looks after it. > >> > > Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do > >> > > much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. > >> > > Orphan: No current maintainer [but maybe you could take the > >> > > role as you write your new code]. > >> > > Obsolete: Old code. Something tagged obsolete generally means > >> > > it has been replaced by a better system and you > >> > > should be using that. > >> > > > >> > > (btw, I just realized that I should be changing the EDAC drivers I maintain > >> > > to Supported; the media drivers I maintain should be kept as Maintained). > >> > > > >> > > I suspect that the "maintainer-light" category for those radio and similar > >> > > old stuff is likely "Odd Fixes". > >> > > > >> > > > > There are some issues by not having a MAINTAINERS entry: > >> > > > > - patches may not flow into the driver maintainer; > >> > > > > - patches will likely be applied without tests/reviews or may > >> > > > > stay for a long time queued; > >> > > > > - ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl at --no-git-fallback won't return > >> > > > > any maintainer[1]. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > [1] Letting get_maintainer.pl is very time/CPU consuming. Letting it would > >> > > > > delay a lot the patch review process, if applied for every patch, with > >> > > > > unreliable and doubtful results. I don't do it, due to the large volume > >> > > > > of patches, and because the 'other' results aren't typically the driver > >> > > > > maintainer. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > An example of this is the results for a patch I just applied > >> > > > > (changeset 2866aed103b915ca8ba0ff76d5790caea4e62ced): > >> > > > > > >> > > > > $ git show --pretty=email|./scripts/get_maintainer.pl > >> > > > > Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (maintainer:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...,commit_signer:7/7=100%) > >> > > > > Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@xxxxxxxxx> (commit_signer:4/7=57%) > >> > > > > Anatolij Gustschin <agust@xxxxxxx> (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > >> > > > > Wei Yongjun <yongjun_wei@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > >> > > > > Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> (commit_signer:1/7=14%) > >> > > > > linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (open list:MEDIA INPUT INFRA...) > >> > > > > linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (open list) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > According with this driver's copyrights: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > * Copyright 2008-2010 Freescale Semiconductor, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > >> > > > > * > >> > > > > * Freescale VIU video driver > >> > > > > * > >> > > > > * Authors: Hongjun Chen <hong-jun.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > > > > * Porting to 2.6.35 by DENX Software Engineering, > >> > > > > * Anatolij Gustschin <agust@xxxxxxx> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > The driver author (Hongjun Chen <hong-jun.chen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>) was not even > >> > > > > shown there, and the co-author got only 15% hit, while I got 100% and Hans > >> > > > > got 57%. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > This happens not only to this driver. In a matter of fact, on most cases where > >> > > > > no MAINTAINERS entry exist, the driver's author gets a very small hit chance, > >> > > > > as, on several of those drivers, the author doesn't post anything else but > >> > > > > the initial patch series. > >> > > > > >> > > > We probably need to have an entry for all the media drivers, even if it just > >> > > > points to the linux-media mailinglist as being the 'collective default maintainer'. > >> > > > >> > > Yes, I think that all media drivers should be there. I prefer to tag the ones > >> > > that nobody sends us a MAINTAINERS entry with "Orphan", as this tag indicates > >> > > that help is wanted. > >> > > >> > I wrote a small shell script to see what's missing, using the analyze_build.pl script > >> > at media-build devel_scripts dir: > >> > > >> > DIR=$(dirname $0) > >> > > >> > $DIR/analyze_build.pl --path drivers/media/ --show_files_per_module >/tmp/all_drivers > >> > grep drivers/media/ MAINTAINERS | perl -ne 's/F:\s+//;s,drivers/media/,,; print $_ if (!/^\n/)' >maintained > >> > grep -v -f maintained /tmp/all_drivers |grep -v -e keymaps -e v4l2-core/ -e dvb-core/ -e media.ko -e rc-core.ko -e ^#| sort >without_maint > >> > > >> > I excluded the core files from the list, as they don't need any specific entry. RC > >> > keymaps is also a special case, as I don't think any maintainer is needed for them. > >> > > >> > Basically, analyze_build.pl says that there are 613 drivers under drivers/media. > >> > The above script shows 348 drivers without an explicit maintainer. So, only 43% > >> > of the drivers have a formal maintainer. > >> > > >> > Yet, on the list below, I think several of them can be easily tagged as > >> > "Odd fixes", like cx88 and saa7134. > >> > > >> > I think I'll send today a few RFC MAINTAINERS patches for some stuff below that > >> > I can myself be added as "Odd fixes". Yet, I would very much prefer if someone > >> > with more time than me could be taking over the "Odd fixes" patches I'll propose. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Mauro > >> > >> These two are 'Supported' by me: > >> > >> i2c/ad9389b.ko = i2c/ad9389b.c > >> i2c/adv7604.ko = i2c/adv7604.c > >> > >> These are 'Maintained' by me: > >> > >> i2c/cx2341x.ko = i2c/cx2341x.c > >> parport/bw-qcam.ko = parport/bw-qcam.c > >> parport/c-qcam.ko = parport/c-qcam.c > >> radio/dsbr100.ko = radio/dsbr100.c > >> radio/radio-cadet.ko = radio/radio-cadet.c > >> radio/radio-isa.ko = radio/radio-isa.c > >> radio/radio-keene.ko = radio/radio-keene.c > > > > OK. Could you please send patches for those? I think that the better is > > to write one patch by each MAINTAINERS entry (except, of course, if there > > are consecutive entries), as I suspect that MAINTAINERS is likely one > > of top-rated merge-conflicts file. > > > >> > >> There are more radio drivers that can have that status, but I would need > >> to check that when I'm back in Oslo. > >> > >> I can do 'Odd fixes' for the following: > >> > >> i2c/cx25840/cx25840.ko = i2c/cx25840/cx25840-core.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-audio.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-firmware.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-vbi.c i2c/cx25840/cx25840-ir.c > >> i2c/m52790.ko = i2c/m52790.c > >> i2c/msp3400.ko = i2c/msp3400-driver.c i2c/msp3400-kthreads.c > >> i2c/saa6588.ko = i2c/saa6588.c > >> i2c/saa7110.ko = i2c/saa7110.c > >> i2c/saa7115.ko = i2c/saa7115.c > >> i2c/saa7127.ko = i2c/saa7127.c > >> i2c/saa717x.ko = i2c/saa717x.c > >> i2c/tda7432.ko = i2c/tda7432.c > >> i2c/tda9840.ko = i2c/tda9840.c > >> i2c/tea6415c.ko = i2c/tea6415c.c > >> i2c/tea6420.ko = i2c/tea6420.c > >> i2c/tvaudio.ko = i2c/tvaudio.c > >> i2c/tveeprom.ko = i2c/tveeprom.c > > > >> i2c/tvp5150.ko = i2c/tvp5150.c > > While I don't mind if you want to do odd fixes for this device, > > I think I can maintain this one, as the "default" device I use for > > random tests has this chipset (HVR-950), and I wrote this driver. > > > >> i2c/wm8739.ko = i2c/wm8739.c > >> i2c/wm8775.ko = i2c/wm8775.c > >> parport/pms.ko = parport/pms.c > >> platform/vivi.ko = platform/vivi.c > >> radio/radio-aimslab.ko = radio/radio-aimslab.c > >> radio/radio-gemtek.ko = radio/radio-gemtek.c > >> radio/radio-maxiradio.ko = radio/radio-maxiradio.c > >> radio/radio-miropcm20.ko = radio/radio-miropcm20.c > >> radio/radio-mr800.ko = radio/radio-mr800.c > >> radio/radio-rtrack2.ko = radio/radio-rtrack2.c > >> radio/radio-si4713.ko = radio/radio-si4713.c > > > >> usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-alsa.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-audio.c > >> usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-dvb.c > >> usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.ko = usb/cx231xx/cx231xx-input.c > >> usb/cx231xx/cx231xx.ko = + > > I think we should check if the driver author is not interested on > > taking maintainership for this one, before putting it on Odd fixes status. > > I'm very sorry for long silence but i'm ready to take maintainership > for radio-mr800. By the way, i think that only fixes will be present > for this driver in the future. Good. could you please send us a patch for Maintainers then? > Is it possible for driver to have two maintainers or for example one > person marked as maintainer and another one marked as "odd fixes" ? Well, it is possible to have two maintainers for a driver. A few of them have it, but, AFAIKT, the driver maintainership status should be just one for the entire driver. > I > mean i'm interested to be in c/c regarding all email, news, > interesting patches for radio-mr800, dsbr100 and usb radio part of > si470x but i don't know how to mark it that i want to help with these > drivers. I have only dsbr100, mr800 and kworld fm700 (based on si470x) > usb radios and i'm ready to test any patches and help as much as i > can. If the above drivers have a maintainer, the patch adding you there as another maintainer should be sent by him (or with his ack). > I don't have usb radio for radio-keene.c driver but i probably will > take a look how to buy it here.. > > And i'm also ready to maintain driver radio-ma901.c. I posted patches > for this device about two weeks ago. Driver is rather small (first > working version) but i hope to add more features there in future. Ok. Please send us a maintainership patch for it as well. Thank you! Mauro > > Best regards and wishes, > Alexey Klimov -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
