On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> I don't know how to handle the /dev/ptmx issue properly from within >>> devtmpfs, does anyone? Proposals are always welcome, the last time this >>> came up a week or so ago, I don't recall seeing any proposals, just a >>> general complaint. >> >> Is it really a problem - devtmpfs is optional. It's a problem for the >> userspace folks to handle and if they made it mandatory in their code >> diddums, someone better go fork working versions. > > If only there was a viable alternative to udev. > > Distributions are being pushed around by the udev+systemd project > precisely because of this reason; udev maintainers have said that udev > on non-systemd systems is a dead end, so everyone that uses udev > (everyone) is being forced to switch to systemd if they want to > receive proper support, and at some point there might not be even a > choice. > > I for one would like an alternative to both systemd and udev on my > Linux systems, and as of yet, I don't know of one. A few years ago, the OpenWRT people pointed me to hotplug2 when I mentioned udev made my poor m68k box with 12 MiB of RAM immediately go OOM. Don't know if it's suitable for "bigger" machines, though. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html