Re: [Workshop-2011] RFC: V4L2 API ambiguities

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Hi,

On 08/13/2012 04:52 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Mon August 13 2012 15:13:34 Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,

<snip>

5) How to handle tuner ownership if both a video and radio node share the same
     tuner?

     Obvious rules:

     - Calling S_FREQ, S_TUNER, S_MODULATOR or S_HW_FREQ_SEEK will change owner
       or return EBUSY if streaming is in progress.

That won't work, as there is no such thing as streaming from a radio node,

There is, actually: read() for RDS data and alsa streaming (although that might
be hard to detect in the case of USB audio).

I suggest we go with the simple approach we discussed at our last meeting in
your Dutch House: Calling S_FREQ, S_TUNER, S_MODULATOR or S_HW_FREQ_SEEK will
make an app the tuner-owner, and *closing* the device handle makes an app
release its tuner ownership. If an other app already is the tuner owner
-EBUSY is returned.

So the ownership is associated with a filehandle?

Yes, that is how it works for videobuf streams too, right? The only difference
being that with videobuf streams there is an expilict way to release the ownership,
where as for tuner ownership there is none, so the ownership is released on device
close.



     - Ditto for STREAMON, read/write and polling for read/write.

No, streaming and tuning are 2 different things, if an app does both, it
will likely tune before streaming, but in some cases a user may use a streaming
only app together with say v4l2-ctl to do the actual tuning. I think keeping
things simple here is key. Lets just treat the "tuner" and "stream" as 2 separate
entities with a separate ownership.

That would work provided the ownership is associated with a filehandle.

Right.



     - Ditto for ioctls that expect a valid tuner configuration like QUERYSTD.

QUERY is a read only ioctl, so it should not be influenced by any ownership, nor
imply ownership.

It is definitely influenced by ownership, since if the tuner is in radio mode,
then it can't detect a standard. Neither is this necessarily a passive call as
some (mostly older) drivers need to switch the receiver to different modes in
order to try and detect the current standard.

Hmm, then I guess that this call should fail with EBUSY if:
The tuner is owned by another app *and*
1) The tuner is in radio mode; or
2) The tuner is in tv mode *and* doing QUERYSTD requires "prodding" the device

<snip>

Regards,

Hans
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