Hi Hans, On Thursday 02 August 2012 09:08:18 Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Thu August 2 2012 08:56:43 Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > > Le jeudi 2 août 2012 09:35:58 Hans Verkuil, vous avez écrit : > > > On Wed August 1 2012 22:49:57 Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > > > > > What about using the CREATE_BUFS ioctl to add new MMAP buffers at > > > > > runtime ? > > > > > > > > Does CREATE_BUFS always work while already streaming has already > > > > started? If it depends on the driver, it's kinda helpless. > > > > > > Yes, it does. It's one of the reasons it exists in the first place. But > > > there are currently only a handful of drivers that implement it. I hope > > > that as more and more drivers are converted to vb2 that the availability > > > of create_bufs will increase. > > > > That's contradictory. If most drivers do not support it, then it won't > > work during streaming. > > IF create_bufs is implemented in the driver, THEN you can use it during > streaming. I.e., it will never return EBUSY as an error due to the fact > that streaming is in progress. > > Obviously it won't work if the driver didn't implement it in the first > place. > > > > > What's the guaranteed minimum buffer count? It seems in any case, MMAP > > > > has a hard limit of 32 buffers (at least videobuf2 has), though one > > > > might argue this should be more than enough. > > > > > > Minimum or maximum? The maximum is 32, that's hardcoded in the V4L2 > > > core. Although drivers may force a lower maximum if they want. I have no > > > idea whether there are drivers that do that. There probably are. > > > > The smallest of the maxima of all drivers. > > I've no idea. Most will probably abide by the 32 maximum, but without > analyzing all drivers I can't guarantee it. > > > > The minimum is usually between 1 and 3, depending on hardware > > > limitations. > > > > And that's clearly insufficient without memory copy to userspace buffers. > > > > It does not seem to me that CREATE_BUFS+MMAP is a useful replacement for > > REQBUFS+USERBUF then. > > Just to put your mind at rest: USERPTR mode will *not* disappear or be > deprecated in any way. It's been there for a long time, it's in heavy use, > it's easy to use and it will not be turned into a second class citizen, > because it isn't. Just because there is a new dmabuf mode available doesn't > mean that everything should be done as a mmap+dmabuf thing. I disagree with this. Not everything should obviously be done with MMAP + DMABUF, but for buffer sharing between devices, we should encourage application developers to use DMABUF instead of USERPTR. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html