Re: [PATCH RFC 01/91] [media] dvb-core: allow demods to specify the supported delivery systems supported standards.

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On 27-12-2011 15:33, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> On 12/27/2011 07:06 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> On 27-12-2011 12:33, Andreas Oberritter wrote:
>>> On 27.12.2011 14:28, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>>> On 27-12-2011 10:11, Andreas Oberritter wrote:
>>>>> On 27.12.2011 02:07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>>>>> DVB-S and DVB-T, as those were the standards supported by DVBv3.
>>>>>
>>>>> The description seems to be incomplete.
>>>>>
>>>>>> New standards like DSS, ISDB and CTTB don't fit on any of the
>>>>>> above types.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> while there's a way for the drivers to explicitly change whatever
>>>>>> default DELSYS were filled inside the core, still a fake value is
>>>>>> needed there, and a "compat" code to allow DVBv3 applications to
>>>>>> work with those delivery systems is needed. This is good for a
>>>>>> short term solution, while applications aren't using DVBv5 directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, at long term, this is bad, as the compat code runs even
>>>>>> if the application is using DVBv5. Also, the compat code is not
>>>>>> perfect, and only works when the frontend is capable of auto-detecting
>>>>>> the parameters that aren't visible by the faked delivery systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, let the frontend fill the supported delivery systems at the
>>>>>> device properties directly, and, in the future, let the core to use
>>>>>> the delsys to fill the reported info::type based on the delsys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab<mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>   drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb_frontend.c |   13 +++++++++++++
>>>>>>   drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb_frontend.h |    8 ++++++++
>>>>>>   2 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb_frontend.c b/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb_frontend.c
>>>>>> index 8dedff4..f17c411 100644
>>>>>> --- a/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb_frontend.c
>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb_frontend.c
>>>>>> @@ -1252,6 +1252,19 @@ static void dtv_set_default_delivery_caps(const struct dvb_frontend *fe, struct
>>>>>>       const struct dvb_frontend_info *info =&fe->ops.info;
>>>>>>       u32 ncaps = 0;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>> +     * If the frontend explicitly sets a list, use it, instead of
>>>>>> +     * filling based on the info->type
>>>>>> +     */
>>>>>> +    if (fe->ops.delsys[ncaps]) {
>>>>>> +        while (fe->ops.delsys[ncaps]&&  ncaps<  MAX_DELSYS) {
>>>>>> +            p->u.buffer.data[ncaps] = fe->ops.delsys[ncaps];
>>>>>> +            ncaps++;
>>>>>> +        }
>>>>>> +        p->u.buffer.len = ncaps;
>>>>>> +        return;
>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>> +
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand what this is trying to solve. This is already handled
>>>>> by the get_property driver callback.
>>>>>
>>>>> dtv_set_default_delivery_caps() only sets some defaults for drivers not
>>>>> implementing get_property yet.
>>>>
>>>> dtv_set_default_delivery_caps() does the wrong thing for delivery systems
>>>> like ISDB-T, ISDB-S, DSS, DMB-TH, as it fills data with a fake value that
>>>> is there at fe->ops.info.type.
>>>>
>>>> The fake values there should be used only for DVBv3 legacy calls emulation
>>>> on those delivery systems that are not fully compatible with a DVBv3 call.
>>>
>>> That's right. Still, there's no need to introduce fe->ops.delsys,
>>> because the drivers in question could just implement get_property
>>> instead. At least that's what we discussed and AFAIR agreed upon when
>>> Manu recently submitted his patches regarding enumeration of delivery
>>> systems.
>>
>> Manu's patches were applied (well, except for two patches related to af9013
>> driver that are/were under discussion between Manu and Antti).
> 
> For me Manu's CXD2820R driver change is OK. I only opened question what is
> meaning of .init() callback as there is now code I like to see be in .init()
> is now moved to .set_frontend(). And as you explained, .init() is useless
> and I will remove it slowly from all my drivers (maybe others too).

OK, I'll merge Manu's cxd2820r changes then, with your acked-by, during this week.

> 
>> Manu's approach is good, as it provided a way to enumerate the
>> standards without much changes, offering a way for userspace to
>> query the delivery system, at the expense of serializing a driver
>> call for each property.
>>
>> Yet, it doesn't allow the DVB core to detect the supported
>> delivery systems on a sane way [1].
>>
>> The addition of fe->ops.delsys is going one step further, as it will
>> allow, at the long term, the removal of info.type.
>>
>> There are two reasons why we need to get rid of info.type:
>>
>> 1) dvb_frontend core can be changed to use fe->ops.delsys
>>     internally, instead of info.type, in order to fix some
>>     bugs inside it, where it does the wrong assumption, because
>>     the frontend is lying about the delivery system;
>>
>> 2) There is no sane way to fill fe->ops.info.type for Multi delivery
>>     system frontends, like DRX-K, that supports both DVB-T and DVB-C.
>>     The type can be filled with either FE_QAM or FE_OFDM, not with both.
>>     So, choosing either type will be plain wrong, and may cause bad
>>     side effects inside dvb_frontend.
>>
>> [1] Ok, it would be possible to do a hack internally, for it to call
>> get_property() but it is a way more sane to just read fe->ops.delsys.
>>
>>>
>>>> At the end, I think we should deprecate the fe->ops.info.type, as its
>>>> contents is not reliable (as it can represent something else).
>>>>
>>>> Btw, there are several places at dvb_frontend.c that uses the info.type
>>>> to assume the delivery system. This leads DVB core to do the wrong assumptions
>>>> for non-DVBv3 supported systems. The right way is to use a new field that
>>>> really represents the supported delivery systems by a given frontend, instead
>>>> of relying on fe->ops.info.type.
> 
> regards
> Antti
> 

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