Em 25-11-2011 12:41, Andreas Oberritter escreveu: > On 25.11.2011 14:48, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: >> If your complain is about the removal of audio.h, video.h > > We're back on topic, thank you! > >> and osd.h, then my proposal is >> to keep it there, writing a text that they are part of a deprecated API, > > That's exactly what I proposed. Well, you shouldn't write "deprecated", > because it's not. Just explain - inside this text - when V4L2 should be > preferred over DVB. It is deprecated, as the API is not growing to fulfill today's needs, and no patches adding new stuff to it to it will be accepted anymore. >> but keeping >> the rest of the patches > > Which ones? V4L2, ivtv and DocBook patches. >> and not accepting anymore any submission using them > > Why? First you complain about missing users and then don't want to allow > any new ones. I didn't complain about missing users. What I've said is that, between a one-user API and broad used APIs like ALSA and V4L2, the choice is to freeze the one-user API and mark it as deprecated. Also, today's needs are properly already covered by V4L/ALSA/MC/subdev. It is easier to add what's missing there for DVB than to work the other way around, and deprecate V4L2/ALSA/MC/subdev. >> , removing >> the ioctl's that aren't used by av7110 from them. > > That's just stupid. I can easily provide a list of used and valuable > ioctls, which need to remain present in order to not break userspace > applications. Those ioctl's aren't used by any Kernel driver, and not even documented. So, why to keep/maintain them? > Btw.: It's not easy to submit a driver for a SoC. Even if you are > legally allowed to do it, you have to first merge and maintain the board > support code before even thinking about multimedia. Yes, I know that there's a long road for SoC drivers addition. Fortunately, several vendors are now working to put their stuff upstream. I heard that there are some upcoming changes intended to simplify it a little bit, trying to make the architecture a little more generic, and put board-specific configuration on userspace. I dunno the details. Regards, Mauro. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
