On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Em 24-11-2011 16:13, Manu Abraham escreveu: >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab >> <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Em 24-11-2011 16:01, Manu Abraham escreveu: >>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 18:08:05 Andreas Oberritter wrote: >>>>>> Don't break existing Userspace APIs for no reason! It's OK to add the >>>>>> new API, but - pretty please - don't just blindly remove audio.h and >>>>>> video.h. They are in use since many years by av7110, out-of-tree drivers >>>>>> *and more importantly* by applications. Yes, I know, you'd like to see >>>>>> those out-of-tree drivers merged, but it isn't possible for many >>>>>> reasons. And even if they were merged, you'd say "Port them and your >>>>>> apps to V4L". No! That's not an option. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not breaking anything. All apps will still work. >>>>> >>>>> One option (and it depends on whether people like it or not) is to have >>>>> audio.h, video.h and osd.h just include av7110.h and add a #warning >>>>> that these headers need to be replaced by the new av7110.h. >>>> >>>> >>>> That won't work with other non av7110 hardware. >>> >>> There isn't any non-av7110 driver using it at the Kernel. Anyway, we can put >>> a warning at the existing headers as-is, for now, putting them to be removed >>> for a new kernel version, like 3.4. >> >> >> No, that's not an option. The to-be merged saa716x driver depends on it. > > If the driver is not merged yet, it can be changed. > >> A DVB alone device need not depend V4L2 for it's operation. > > Why not? DVB drivers with IR should implement the input/event/IR API. DVB drivers with net > should implement the Linux Network API. A DVB device having DVB alone associated with it, I see no reason for it to be using V4L framework, while that same framework exists within DVB, just because someone has created some artificial reasons to remove it and put it to V4L. That's so wicked and full of politics. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
