On 24.11.2011 18:58, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em 24-11-2011 15:51, Andreas Oberritter escreveu: >> On 24.11.2011 18:44, Hans Verkuil wrote: >>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 18:08:05 Andreas Oberritter wrote: >>>> Don't break existing Userspace APIs for no reason! It's OK to add the >>>> new API, but - pretty please - don't just blindly remove audio.h and >>>> video.h. They are in use since many years by av7110, out-of-tree drivers >>>> *and more importantly* by applications. Yes, I know, you'd like to see >>>> those out-of-tree drivers merged, but it isn't possible for many >>>> reasons. And even if they were merged, you'd say "Port them and your >>>> apps to V4L". No! That's not an option. >>> >>> I'm not breaking anything. All apps will still work. >>> >>> One option (and it depends on whether people like it or not) is to have >>> audio.h, video.h and osd.h just include av7110.h and add a #warning >>> that these headers need to be replaced by the new av7110.h. >>> >>> And really remove them at some point in the future. >>> >>> But the important thing to realize is that the ABI hasn't changed (unless >>> I made a mistake somewhere). >> >> So why don't you just leave the headers where they are and add a notice >> about the new V4L API as a comment? >> >> What you proposed breaks compilation. If you add a warning, it breaks >> compilation for programs compiled with -Werror. Both are regressions. > > I don't mind doing it for 3.3 kernel, and add a note at > Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt that the > headers will go away on 3.4. This should give distributions > and app developers enough time to prevent build failures, and > prepare for the upcoming changes. Are you serious? Breaking things that worked well for many years - for an artificially invented reason - is so annoying, I can't even find the words to express how much this sucks. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html