On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Tuesday, August 30, 2011 16:24:55 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote: > > Hi Hans > > > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2011, Hans Verkuil wrote: [snip] > > > The problem with S_FMT changing the crop rectangle (and I assume we are not > > > talking about small pixel tweaks to make the hardware happy) is that the > > > crop operation actually removes part of the frame. That's not something you > > > would expect S_FMT to do, ever. Such an operation has to be explicitly > > > requested by the user. > > > > > > It's also why properly written applications (e.g. capture-example.c) has > > > code like this to reset the crop rectangle before starting streaming: > > > > > > if (0 == xioctl(fd, VIDIOC_CROPCAP, &cropcap)) { > > > crop.type = V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_CAPTURE; > > > crop.c = cropcap.defrect; /* reset to default */ > > > > > > if (-1 == xioctl(fd, VIDIOC_S_CROP, &crop)) { > > > switch (errno) { > > > case EINVAL: > > > /* Cropping not supported. */ > > > break; > > > default: > > > /* Errors ignored. */ > > > break; > > > } > > > } > > > } > > > > > > (Hmm, capture-example.c should also test for ENOTTY since we changed the > > > error code). > > > > I agree, that preserving input rectangle == output rectangle in reply to > > S_FMT is not nice, and should be avoided, wherever possible. Still, I > > prefer this to sticking with just one fixed output geometry, especially > > since (1) the spec doesn't prohibit this behaviour, > > Hmm, I think it should be prohibited. Few drivers actually implement crop, > and fewer applications use it. So I'm not surprised the spec doesn't go into > much detail. > > > (2) there are already > > precedents in the mainline. > > Which precedents? My guess is that any driver that does this was either not > (or poorly) reviewed, or everyone just missed it. My first two sensor drivers mt9m001 and mt9v022 do this, but, I suspect, I didn't invent it at that time, I think, I copied it from somewhere, cannot say for sure though anymore. > > Maybe, a bit of hardware background would help: the sensor is actually > > supposed to be able to both crop and scale, and we did try to implement > > scales other than 1:1, but the chip just refused to produce anything > > meaningful. > > I still don't see any reason why S_FMT would suddenly crop on such a sensor. > It's completely unexpected and the user does not get what he expects. Good, let's make it simple for all (except Bastian) then: Bastian, sorry for having misguided you, please, switch to .s_crop(). Thanks Guennadi --- Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D. Freelance Open-Source Software Developer http://www.open-technology.de/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html