Hi Geert, On Monday 29 August 2011 16:26:02 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 16:17, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Monday 29 August 2011 16:14:38 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 15:34, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > >> > On Monday 29 August 2011 15:09:04 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 14:55, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > >> >> >> When will the driver report FB_{TYPE,VISUAL}_FOURCC? > >> >> >> - When using a mode that cannot be represented in the legacy > >> >> >> way, > >> >> > > >> >> > Definitely. > >> >> > > >> >> >> - But what with modes that can be represented? Legacy software > >> >> >> cannot handle FB_{TYPE,VISUAL}_FOURCC. > >> >> > > >> >> > My idea was to use FB_{TYPE,VISUAL}_FOURCC only when the mode is > >> >> > configured using the FOURCC API. If FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO is called > >> >> > with a non-FOURCC format, the driver will report non-FOURCC types > >> >> > and visuals. > >> >> > >> >> Hmm, two use cases: > >> >> - The video mode is configured using a FOURCC-aware tool ("fbset on > >> >> steroids"). > >> > > >> > Such as http://git.ideasonboard.org/?p=fbdev-test.git;a=summary :-) > >> > >> Yep. > >> > >> >> Later the user runs a legacy application. > >> >> => Do not retain FOURCC across opening of /dev/fb*. > >> > > >> > I know about that problem, but it's not that easy to work around. We > >> > have no per-open fixed and variable screen info, and FB devices can > >> > be opened by multiple applications at the same time. > >> > > >> >> - Is there an easy way to force FOURCC reporting, so new apps don't > >> >> have to support parsing the legacy formats? This is useful for new > >> >> apps that want to support (a subset of) FOURCC modes only. > >> > > >> > Not at the moment. > >> > >> So perhaps we do need new ioctls instead... > >> That would also ease an in-kernel translation layer. > > > > Do you mean new ioctls to replace the FOURCC API proposal, or new ioctls > > for the above two operations ? > > New ioctls to replace the FOURCC proposal. *sigh*... I'd like other people's opinion on this before throwing everything away. Florian, Magnus, Guennadi, others, what do you think ? -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html