Hi, OK, I will change so request_module will be called for all devices. Regarding the other comment you have sent about the IR module - I have noticed it when I continued with the merges and fixed it last week but I had a small accident where I formatted the wrong disk and had to start over my merges. I will make the proper changes based on the comments about this thread and publish it again. Thanks, Doron -----Original Message----- From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab [mailto:mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 14:09 To: Doron Cohen Cc: BOUWSMA Barry; linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers: support new Siano tuner devices. Em 03-08-2011 02:06, Doron Cohen escreveu: > Hi Barry, > One thing I need to check before I approve and even extent this change: > What happens if the smsdvb module does not exists. > I assume nothing happens since we are not checking the return code and therefore everything will work as if this call was > not exist, but I would like to check that before my final decision. > The reason is that the devices from HAUPPAUGE which currently request for the smsdvb module must use the > v4l as defined by HAUPPAUGE. Other device based on other SMS chips (Not just the STELLAR but also the NOVA, VENICE, RIO > and other device series) not always uses the v4l but sometimes has proprietary player which used the SMS device directly. > So I wouldn't like to cause harm for those users. > I seems that requesting the module will not harm, if the module does not exists - the request will fail and everything > will keep working, and if the module exists it will load but they still won't have to use it. I think you're calling the DVB API as "v4l". Be careful, as "v4l" is the name of the API used for analog TV and webcams. "DVB API" is the name of the API used for Digital TV, where DVBv3 means the API that supports only DVB/C/T/S and ATSC, and DVBv5 is the flexible API that supports multiple Delivery Systems, and whose addition of a new one is just a matter of adding a new set of properties to FE_GET_PROPERTY and FE_SET_PROPERTY. The only API acceptable for a DVB driver at the Linux Kernel is the DVB API. Nothing prevents you to offer other API's to your customers, but upstream patches with another API aren't accepted. We had a similar discussion years ago, when Uri synced the Siano's internal tree with the kernel one. That's said, if smsdvb doesn't exist, request_module("smsdvb") won't produce any error. > So in that case I would also add a few more devices to the list (all of Siano devices which > supports standards supported by v4l. The right solution is to move request_module("smsdvb")to be outside of the card-specific test, trying to load it for all boards, as it won't make sense otherwise (as there's no sense to add the driver to Kernel without the DVB API, as it won't work as-is). If there are some Delivery System not yet supported, then the right solution is to propose a DVB API addition (using DVBv5 API) to support the new Delivery System. There are a few ones not properly supported yet. So, go ahead and propose adding new properties to support such standards. Recently, I found some time to update DVBv5 API description for the supported Delivery Systems. It is at: http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/FE_GET_SET_PROPERTY.html#fe_pr operty_parameters The DocBook source for it is at Documentation/DocBook/media/dvb/dvbproperty.xml. Basically, the API currently documents: DVB-T/T2/C/S/S2, ISDB-T/S and ATSC. It misses a few standards like DVB-H, DMB and CMMB. Yet, there are a few frontends implementing them (lgs8gl5, for example, implements DMB-TH). So, maybe all that it is needed for some of those standards are already there or maybe the current implementations just put everything on the AUTO mode. So, maybe it is just a matter of properly documenting what properties those standards need. If not, adding a few new properties and/or extending the existing ones should be enough to add support for them. > If the change will cause problems for users who doesn't need the v4l I will object to this change. > I will run a few tests on that and either add these changes or let you know of a problem in a few days. > > Regarding DAB+, it was added to the firmware about a year ago, it is required to change the firmware > file with a newer one and nothing is required in the host layers for that support. Bad news is that > according to the patch you gave - you are probably using STELLAR device and there is no such firmware > for that device. The DAB+ support was added to newer Siano devices (NOVA and up) but not for the > STELLAR due to device HW limitations. Currently, DAB is not covered by DVBv5 API. So, we'll likely need to add some new properties there for it. Cheers, Mauro ************************************************************************ ************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************ ************ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html