Hi all, After making some serious use of it in the pwc driver cleanup I would like to thank Hans V. for all his hard work on the new ctrl framework. The clusters bit got a bit getting used to / but once I did it is great. Once you get it, it really makes sense to group certain ctrls into clusters which then get set in a single call to the driver, allowing more or less atomic handling of things like autofoo + foo changing. And in the pwc case also grouping the pan and tilt controls, which get set with a single usb command, so that with s_ex_ctrls an app can in theory do diagonal moving of the camera rather then stair case moving. Thanks Hans V.! Regards, Hans -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html