I see in drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvb_frontend.c that there is some synchronization between the old and the new API. But it is incomplete: The new FE_GET_PROPERTY will report only cached values, which is whatever the application has written and not the actual tuned values like FE_GET_FRONTEND will. The problem is that FE_GET_PROPERTY only will call fe->ops.get_property even for legacy drivers. It could have fallen back to calling fe->ops.get_frontend followed by a cache synchronization. Is this difference intentional (because it costs too much, doesn't matter, or whatever)? Or should I prepare a patch for dvb_frontend.c? I made a small util comparing the two APIs, basically just doing fd = open("/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0", O_RDONLY); ioctl(fd, FE_GET_INFO, &fe_info); ioctl(fd, FE_GET_FRONTEND, &fe_param); ioctl(fd, FE_GET_PROPERTY, &dtv_props); close(fd); and pretty-printing some of the results from the three ioctl()s. It reports typically something like this: bjorn@canardo:~$ /tmp/dvb_fe_test /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 == /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 == name: Philips TDA10023 DVB-C type: FE_QAM == FE_GET_FRONTEND == frequency : 394013477 inversion : off (0) symbol_rate : 6900000 fec_inner : FEC_NONE (0) modulation : QAM_256 (5) == FE_GET_PROPERTY == [17] DTV_DELIVERY_SYSTEM : SYS_DVBC_ANNEX_AC (1) [03] DTV_FREQUENCY : 394000000 [06] DTV_INVERSION : auto (2) [08] DTV_SYMBOL_RATE : 6900000 [09] DTV_INNER_FEC : FEC_AUTO (9) [04] DTV_MODULATION : QAM_256 (5) [35] DTV_API_VERSION : 5.1 [05] DTV_BANDWIDTH_HZ : BANDWIDTH_AUTO (3) Notice how FE_GET_PROPERTY returns "auto" settings for inversion and inner_fec, while FE_GET_FRONTEND reports the actual values currently set in the tuner. Also notice how the frequency differs. It's not a big issue I believe, but I do find this a bit confusing as two different apps using different APIs will report different settings. BjÃrn -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html