Em 02-05-2011 23:48, Robby Workman escreveu: > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > >> Not sure what happened, but I lost the original email, so let me quote >> it from patchwork ID#699151. >> >> >>> Subject: [PATCHES] Misc. trivial fixes >>> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:10:36 -0000 >>> From: Robby Workman <rworkman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> X-Patchwork-Id: 699151 >>> Message-Id: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1104111908050.32072@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> Patch #1 installs udev rules files to /lib/udev/rules.d/ instead >>> of /etc/udev/rules.d/ - see commit message for more info. >>> >>> Patch #2 allows override of manpage installation directory by >>> packagers - see commit message for more info >> >> Please send each patch in-lined, one patch per email. > > > Okay, noted. Should I resend, or is this for future reference? If you don't mind, please re-send it. Please c/c me, as we're having some troubles with patchwork nowadays. >> Not all distros use /lib for it. In fact, RHEL5/RHEL6/Fedora 15 and Fedora rawhide >> all use /etc/udev/rules.d. > > If so, it's only older distros that I wouldn't expect to be packaging newer > versions of v4l-utils (e.g. RHEL won't as I understand it), and for Fedora, > if "rawhide" is devel tree, then I'm pretty sure you're mistaken. We've packaged v4l-utils for RHEL, via epel[1]. I volunteered to maintain it for RHEL6, as I use it on my machine and I would be doing it anyway for me, so better to maintain it for the others also ;) [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/v4l-utils I don't intend to maintain it for RHEL5, but I was told that lots of mythtv users run CentOS (based on RHEL5). So, I won't doubt if someone from CentOS (or other rpm repos for .el5, like atrpms) would add v4l-utils there. >> In a matter of fact, looking at RHEL6 (udev-147-2.35.el6.x86_64), it has both. I suspect >> that /lib/udev/rules.d is meant to have the default scripts that are part of the >> official packages, and /etc/udev/rules.d to be user-defined ones. So, at least on RHEL6, >> it makes sense that a user-compiled tarball would install stuff into /etc/*, and >> that a RHEL6 package would change it to install at /lib/*. > > > Every distro (recent) will have both /lib/udev/rules.d/ and /etc/udev/rules.d/ ; > more on that later... > > >> So, it is better to have some Makefile var with some default, that >> allows overriding it when doing a make install, for example: >> >> UDEVDIR=/etc/udev/rules.d > > > Well, if you *insist* on doing this, sure, but better to do this: > UDEVDIR=/lib/udev as the default, and then use $(UDEVDIR)/rules.d/ (and let packagers > redefine UDEVDIR if desired - though I don't think that will be as > common as you believe). Do you know, by any chance, what's the minimal udev version where /lib/udev exists? If it is too old, then I agree that pointing the default to /lib/udev is the better. >> The default is a matter of personal taste. I would keep the current way as default, >> as it avoids breaking for those that are using it on the current way. One alternative >> would be to add some logic there to change the default to /lib/* if /etc/* doesn't >> exist. > > > But /etc/udev/rules.d/ should exist regardless, and it's not at all a > matter of personal taste, as I understand it. /lib/udev/rules.d/ is > the location for packaged and general default rules files to be placed, > and /etc/udev/rules.d/ is where autogenerated rules (such as those that > create persistent symlinks for optical and network devices) are placed, > as well as admin- and system-specific override rules (e.g. a file named > 10-blah.rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/ would completely override a file of > the same name in /lib/udev/rules.d/). Ok. > > The point I'm trying to make is this: you lose nothing in the way of user customization by defaulting to /lib/udev/rules.d/ - you simply force it to happen the way that upstream udev intends. The only thing > you lose is support for older udev releases, and I'm not sure that's > a big concern :-) > > (CC'd udev mail list so that someone can LART me if I'm wrong) ;-) Thanks! > > -RW Mauro. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html