Hi Andy, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 20:12:45 Andy Walls wrote: > On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:52 +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > It really shouldn't be that hard to get everyone involved together > > > > and settle on a single solution (either based on an existing > > > > proposal or create a 'the best of' vendor-neutral solution). > > > > > > "Single" might be making the problem impossibly hard to solve well. > > > One-size-fits-all solutions have a tendency to fall short on meeting > > > someone's critical requirement. I will agree that "less than n", for > > > some small n, is certainly desirable. > > > > > > The memory allocators and managers are ideally satisfying the > > > requirements imposed by device hardware, what userspace applications > > > are expected to do with the buffers, and system performance. (And > > > maybe the platform architecture, I/O bus, and dedicated video memory?) > > > > In the embedded world, a very common use case is to capture video data > > from an ISP (V4L2+MC), process it in a DSP (V4L2+M2M, tidspbridge, ...) > > and display it on the GPU (OpenGL/ES). We need to be able to share a > > data buffer between the ISP and the DSP, and another buffer between the > > DSP and the GPU. If processing is not required, sharing a data buffer > > between the ISP and the GPU is required. Achieving zero-copy requires a > > single memory management solution used by the ISP, the DSP and the GPU. > > Ah. I guess I misunderstood what was meant by "memory provider" to some > extent. > > So what I read is a common way of providing in kernel persistent buffers > (buffer objects? buffer entities?) for drivers and userspace > applications to pass around by reference (no copies). Userspace may or > may not want to see the contents of the buffer objects. Exactly. How that memory is allocated in irrelevant here, and we can have several different allocators as long as the buffer objects can be managed through a single API. That API will probably have to expose buffer properties related to allocation, in order for all components in the system to verify that the buffers are suitable for their needs, but the allocation process itself is irrelevant. > So I understand now why a single solution is desirable. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html