Re: Zooming with V4L2

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On Monday 22 November 2010 12:34:04 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Monday 22 November 2010 12:23:49 Hans de Goede wrote:
> > On 11/22/2010 11:59 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Sunday 21 November 2010 00:50:59 Shuzhen Wang wrote:
> > >> Hello, Laurent,
> > >> 
> > >> Thank you for the reply.
> > >> 
> > >> In our case, most of the time the sensor outputs bigger image size
> > >> than the output size, so the ISP hardware does downscaling.
> > >> When zooming in, we can do cropping, and less downscaling to achieve
> > >> the same output size. All these happen under of the hood of ISP
> > >> driver. That's why I said it was like optical zoom to the
> > >> application.
> > >> 
> > >> So if "digital zoom == cropping and upscaling", then I don't think my
> > >> case fits in digital zoom category.
> > > 
> > > Digital zoom is cropping and scaling. Whether it's downscaling or
> > > upscaling (or even no scaling it all for a specific resolution) is not
> > > really relevant here. It depends on the output resolution but it's
> > > still digital zoom that should be implemented using the crop API.
> > 
> > Not sure I agree with this, given that AFAIK no application actually uses
> > the crop API, and that almost no mere human seems to understand the crop
> > API,

Oh, and if our current crop API sucks, let's make a new one :-)

> > I would like to advocate for exporting digital zoom as a separate
> > control (for those cases were the hardware adds something to merely doing
> > this in software).
> 
> I disagree with that :-)
> 
> The purpose of V4L drivers is to let userspace control the hardware. If we
> added a digital zoom control drivers would then need to implement policies
> (for instance how do you configure crop settings to get a linear zoom value
> ?) and that doesn't belong to kernelspace.
> 
> If the hardware can perform cropping and scaling, let's expose that to
> applications as cropping and scaling. Whether they use it to implement
> digital zoom, or for an entirely different purpose, is up to them. I don't
> want to see drivers exposing cropping and scaling as zoom, pan and tilt
> CIDs.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart
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