Re: [PATCH v8 23/38] media: uapi: ccs: Add media bus code for MIPI CCS embedded data

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Hi Sakari,

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 09:04:47AM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 06:49:14PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 09:25:01AM +0200, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > Add new MIPI CCS embedded data media bus code
> > > (MEDIA_BUS_FMT_CCS_EMBEDDED).
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > ---
> > >  .../media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst              | 28 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >  include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h         |  3 ++
> > >  2 files changed, 31 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst
> > > index cbd475f7cae9..c8f982411e70 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst
> > > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst
> > > @@ -8564,3 +8564,31 @@ and finally the bit number in subscript. "X" indicates a padding bit.
> > >        - X
> > >        - X
> > >        - X
> > > +
> > > +.. _MEDIA-BUS-FMT-CCS-EMBEDDED:
> > > +
> > > +MIPI CCS Embedded Data Formats
> > > +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > +
> > > +`MIPI CCS <https://www.mipi.org/specifications/camera-command-set>`_ defines a
> > > +metadata format for sensor embedded data, which is used to store the register
> > > +configuration used for capturing a given frame. The format is defined in the CCS
> > > +specification. The media bus code for this format is
> > > +``MEDIA_BUS_FMT_CCS_EMBEDDED``.
> > > +
> > > +The CCS embedded data format definition includes three levels:
> > > +
> > > +1. Padding within CSI-2 bus :ref:`Data unit <media-glossary-data-unit>` as
> > 
> > s/Data unit/Data Unit/
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > > +   documented in the MIPI CCS specification.
> > > +
> > > +2. The tagged data format as documented in the MIPI CCS specification.
> > > +
> > > +3. Register addresses and register documentation as documented in the MIPI CCS
> > > +   specification.
> > > +
> > > +The format definition shall be used only by devices that fulfill all three
> > > +levels above.
> > 
> > Hmmmm... Do we need to mandate level 3 ? There are lots of sensors that
> > comply with the first two levels but have their own register set. Would
> > you like a sensor-specific embedded data format for each of them ? If
> > so, how would we document it without essentially copying the datasheet ?
> 
> You could refer to the datasheet if it's publicly available.

What if it's not ? How would you expect documentation to be organized ?
Will we then end up adding one media bus code per sensor ?

> The CCS static data format is meaningful only for accessing (level 1) and
> parsing (level 2) the data without knowing its meaning, which is the most
> important aspect. The user space will need to know the meaning of the data
> and can additionally select the same data unpacker than for CCS and
> possibly also the CCS data parser if applicable.
> 
> The user space should especially not have to have a list of CCS-compliant
> sensors which would become necessary, should we skip on the 3rd level
> requirement here.
> 
> > > +
> > > +This mbus code are only used for "2-byte simplified tagged data format" (code
> > > +0xa) but their use may be extended further in the future, to cover other CCS
> > > +embedded data format codes.
> > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h b/include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h
> > > index d4c1d991014b..03f7e9ab517b 100644
> > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h
> > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h
> > > @@ -183,4 +183,7 @@
> > >  #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_20			0x8006
> > >  #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_24			0x8007
> > >  
> > > +/* Specific metadata formats. Next is 0x9002. */
> > > +#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_CCS_EMBEDDED		0x9001
> > > +
> > >  #endif /* __LINUX_MEDIA_BUS_FORMAT_H */

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart




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