Heippa, On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 07:56:46PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote: > On 25/03/2024 19:52, Sakari Ailus wrote: > > Moi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 03:43:01PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote: > > > On 25/03/2024 15:02, Sakari Ailus wrote: > > > > Moi, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the patch. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 02:50:55PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > > > Hi Tomi, > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 02:43:23PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote: > > > > > > Currently a subdevice with a single pad, e.g. a sensor subdevice, must > > > > > > use the v4l2_subdev_video_ops.s_stream op, instead of > > > > > > v4l2_subdev_pad_ops.enable/disable_streams. This is because the > > > > > > enable/disable_streams machinery requires a routing table which a subdev > > > > > > cannot have with a single pad. > > > > > > > > > > > > Implement enable/disable_streams support for these single-pad subdevices > > > > > > by assuming an implicit stream 0 when the subdevice has only one pad. > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Even though I did send this patch, I'm not sure if this is necessary. > > > > > > s_stream works fine for the subdevs with a single pad. With the upcoming > > > > > > internal pads, adding an internal pad to the subdev will create a > > > > > > routing table, and enable/disable_streams would get "fixed" that way. > > > > > > > > I'd like to get rid of a redundant way to control streaming. > > > > > > We can't get rid of it anyway, can we? We're not going to convert old > > > drivers to streams. > > > > I'd expect to do that but it'd take a long time. That being said, I think > > we need to consider devices without pads (VCMs) so it may well be this > > would remain after all. > > > > > > > > For new drivers, yes, we shouldn't use s_stream. But is the answer for new > > > sensor drivers this patch, or requiring an internal pad? > > > > For new drivers I'd like to see an internal pad in fact. > > {enable,disable}_streams is still internal to the kernel. > > So, you think this patch should be dropped? No, no. Not all sub-device drivers with pads are camera sensor drivers. :-) > > > > > > > So perhaps the question is, do we want to support single-pad subdevs in > > > > > > the future, in which case something like this patch is necessary, or > > > > > > will all modern source subdev drivers have internal pads, in which > > > > > > case this is not needed... > > > > > > > > > > I think the latter would be best. I however can't guarantee we won't > > > > > have valid use cases for (enable|disable)_streams on single-pad subdevs > > > > > though, so you patch could still be interesting. > > > > > > > > Instead of the number of pads, could we use instead the > > > > V4L2_SUBDEV_FL_STREAMS flag or whether g_routing op is supported to > > > > determine the need for this? > > > > > > Maybe, but are they better? Do you see some issue with checking for the > > > number of pads? I considered a few options, but then thought that the most > > > safest test for this case is 1) one pad 2) enable/disable_streams > > > implemented. > > > > I think I'd actually prefer {enable,disable}_streams in fact. > > Hmm, sorry, now I'm confused =). What do you mean with that? I'd use V4L2_SUBDEV_FL_STREAMS flag instead of the number of pads. The number of pads is less related to routing. -- Regards, Sakari Ailus