Hi Hans, On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 12:26:41PM +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote: > On 03/10/2023 14:07, Sakari Ailus wrote: > > Document how internal pads are used on source routes. Use the IMX219 > > camera sensor as an example. > > > > Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > --- > > .../userspace-api/media/v4l/dev-subdev.rst | 179 ++++++++++++++++++ > > 1 file changed, 179 insertions(+) > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/dev-subdev.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/dev-subdev.rst > > index a387e8a15b8d..fb73a95401c3 100644 > > --- a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/dev-subdev.rst > > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/dev-subdev.rst > > @@ -553,6 +553,27 @@ A stream at a specific point in the media pipeline is identified by the > > sub-device and a (pad, stream) pair. For sub-devices that do not support > > multiplexed streams the 'stream' field is always 0. > > > > +.. _v4l2-subdev-source-routes: > > + > > +Internal pads and source routes > > +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > + > > +Cases where a single sub-device source pad is traversed by multiple streams one > > Comma after "streams" > > > +or more of which originate from within the sub-device itself are special as > > and comma after "itself". Yes. > > > +there is no external sink pad for such routes. In those cases, the sources of > > +the internally generated streams are represented by internal sink pads, which > > +are sink pads that have the :ref:`MEDIA_PAD_FL_INTERNAL <MEDIA-PAD-FL-INTERNAL>` > > +pad flag set. > > + > > +Internal pads have all the properties of an external pad, including formats and > > Perhaps the glossary should have definitions for "internal pad" and "external pad"? > Or define it somewhere in: > > https://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis-new/userspace-api/mediactl/media-controller.html I'll add them to the glossary. > > > +selections. The format in this case is the source format of the stream. An > > +internal pad always has a single stream only (0). > > + > > +*Source routes* are routes from an internal sink pad to an external source > > +pad. In most cases source routes are not modifiable but they can be activated > > +and deactivated using the :ref:`V4L2_SUBDEV_ROUTE_FL_ACTIVE > > +<v4l2-subdev-routing-flags>` flag, depending on driver capabilities. > > + > > Interaction between routes, streams, formats and selections > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > @@ -668,3 +689,161 @@ To configure this pipeline, the userspace must take the following steps: > > the configurations along the stream towards the receiver, using > > :ref:`VIDIOC_SUBDEV_S_FMT <VIDIOC_SUBDEV_G_FMT>` ioctls to configure each > > stream endpoint in each sub-device. > > + > > +Internal pads setup example > > +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > + > > +A simple example of a multiplexed stream setup might be as follows: > > + > > +- A CCS camera sensor source sub-device, with one sink pad (0), one source pad > > + (1), an internal sink pad (2) that represents the source of embedded > > + data. There are two routes, one from the sink pad to the source, and another > > + from the internal sink pad to the source pad. The embedded data stream needs > > + to be enabled by activating the related route. The configuration of the rest > > + of the CCS sub-devices is omitted from this example. > > + > > +- Multiplexer bridge (Bridge). The bridge has one sink pad, connected to the > > + sensor (pad 0), and one source pad (pad 1), which outputs two streams. > > I think this should mention "CSI" somewhere, since this transmits over the CSI bus. I'll add CSI-2 in v7. I'll also remove the bridge in v7 as this isn't a common configuration. > > > + > > +- Receiver in the SoC (Receiver). The receiver has a single sink pad (pad 0), > > + connected to the bridge, and two source pads (pads 1-2), going to the DMA > > + engine. The receiver demultiplexes the incoming streams to the source pads. > > Ditto: this receives data from the CSI bus. Yes. > > > + > > +- DMA Engines in the SoC (DMA Engine), one for each stream. Each DMA engine is > > + connected to a single source pad in the receiver. > > + > > +The sensor, the bridge and the receiver are modeled as V4L2 sub-devices, > > +exposed to userspace via /dev/v4l-subdevX device nodes. The DMA engines are > > +modeled as V4L2 devices, exposed to userspace via /dev/videoX nodes. > > + > > +To configure this pipeline, the userspace must take the following steps: > > + > > +1) Set up media links between entities: connect the sensors to the bridge, > > + bridge to the receiver, and the receiver to the DMA engines. This step does > > + not differ from normal non-multiplexed media controller setup. > > + > > +2) Configure routing > > + > > +.. flat-table:: Camera sensor > > + :header-rows: 1 > > + > > + * - Sink Pad/Stream > > + - Source Pad/Stream > > + - Routing Flags > > + - Comments > > + * - 0/0 > > + - 1/0 > > + - V4L2_SUBDEV_ROUTE_FL_ACTIVE > > + - Pixel data stream from the sink pad > > + * - 2/0 > > + - 1/1 > > + - **V4L2_SUBDEV_ROUTE_FL_ACTIVE** > > + - Metadata stream from the internal sink pad > > + > > +.. flat-table:: Bridge routing table > > + :header-rows: 1 > > + > > + * - Sink Pad/Stream > > + - Source Pad/Stream > > + - Routing Flags > > + - Comments > > + * - 0/0 > > + - 1/0 > > + - V4L2_SUBDEV_ROUTE_FL_ACTIVE > > + - Pixel data stream from camera sensor > > + * - 0/1 > > + - 1/1 > > + - V4L2_SUBDEV_ROUTE_FL_ACTIVE > > + - Metadata stream from camera sensor > > + > > +.. flat-table:: Receiver routing table > > + :header-rows: 1 > > + > > + * - Sink Pad/Stream > > + - Source Pad/Stream > > + - Routing Flags > > + - Comments > > + * - 0/0 > > + - 1/0 > > + - V4L2_SUBDEV_ROUTE_FL_ACTIVE > > + - Pixel data stream from camera sensor > > + * - 0/1 > > + - 2/0 > > + - V4L2_SUBDEV_ROUTE_FL_ACTIVE > > + - Metadata stream from camera sensor > > + > > +The options available in sensor's routing configuration are dictated by > > +hardware capabilities: typically camera sensors always produce image data > > image data -> an image data Yes. > > > +stream while the embedded data stream typically can be either enabled or > > +disabled. > > + > > +3) Configure formats and selections > > + > > + This example assumes that the formats are propagated from sink pad to the > > + source pad as-is. The tables contain fields of both struct v4l2_subdev_format > > + and struct v4l2_mbus_framefmt. > > + > > +.. flat-table:: Formats set on the sub-devices. Bold values are set, others are > > + static or propagated. > > + :header-rows: 1 > > + :fill-cells: > > + > > + * - Sub-device > > + - Pad/Stream > > + - Width > > + - Height > > + - Code > > + * - :rspan:`3` Camera sensor sub-device (IMX219) > > + - 1/0 > > + - 3296 > > + - 2480 > > + - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SRGGB10 > > + * - 0/0 > > + - **3296** > > + - **2480** > > + - **MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SRGGB10** > > + * - 2/0 > > + - 3296 > > + - 2 > > + - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_IMX219_EMBEDDED > > + * - 1/1 > > + - 3296 > > + - 2 > > + - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_10 > > + * - :rspan:`3` Bridge > > + - 0/0 > > + - **3296** > > + - **2480** > > + - **MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SRGGB10** > > + * - 1/0 > > + - 3296 > > + - 2480 > > + - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SRGGB10 > > + * - 0/1 > > + - **3296** > > + - **2** > > + - **MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_10** > > + * - 1/1 > > + - 3296 > > + - 2 > > + - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_10 > > + * - :rspan:`3` Receiver > > + - 0/0 > > + - **3296** > > + - **2480** > > + - **MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SRGGB10** > > + * - 1/0 > > + - 3296 > > + - 2480 > > + - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SRGGB10 > > + * - 0/1 > > + - **3296** > > + - **2** > > + - **MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_10** > > + * - 2/0 > > + - 3296 > > + - 2 > > + - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_10 > > + > > +The embedded data format does not need to be configured as the format is > > +dictated by the pixel data format in this case. > > "pixel data format"? That doesn't sound right for embedded data. This is meant to convey that the configuration of embedded data stream is dictated by the pixel data stream: I don't think it'd be useful to be able to configure it the other way around. In hardware there's a dependency in any case. Also, user space that isn't aware of the embedded data just does configure the pixel data stream. -- Regards, Sakari Ailus