Re: [PATCH v3 07/10] media: uapi: Add generic 8-bit metadata format definitions

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Hi Laurent,

On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 04:07:29PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 11:56:47AM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > Hi Laurent,
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 05, 2023 at 07:55:58PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2023 at 10:55:35AM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > Generic 8-bit metadata formats define the in-memory data layout but not
> > > > the format of the data itself. The reasoning for having such formats is to
> > > > allow CSI-2 receiver drivers to receive and DMA drivers to write the data
> > > > to memory without knowing a large number of device specific formats.
> > > > 
> > > > These formats may be used only in conjunction of a Media controller
> > > > pipeline where the internal pad of the source sub-device defines the
> > > > specific format of the data (using an mbus code).
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../userspace-api/media/v4l/meta-formats.rst  |   1 +
> > > >  .../media/v4l/metafmt-generic.rst             | 331 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-ioctl.c          |   8 +
> > > >  include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h                |   9 +
> > > >  4 files changed, 349 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/metafmt-generic.rst
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/meta-formats.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/meta-formats.rst
> > > > index 0bb61fc5bc00..919f595576b9 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/meta-formats.rst
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/meta-formats.rst
> > > > @@ -19,3 +19,4 @@ These formats are used for the :ref:`metadata` interface only.
> > > >      metafmt-vsp1-hgo
> > > >      metafmt-vsp1-hgt
> > > >      metafmt-vivid
> > > > +    metafmt-generic
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/metafmt-generic.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/metafmt-generic.rst
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 000000000000..a27bfc721edf
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/metafmt-generic.rst
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,331 @@
> > > > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 OR GFDL-1.1-no-invariants-or-later
> > > > +
> > > > +**************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
> > > > +V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_8 ('MET8'), V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_10 ('MC1A'), V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_12 ('MC1C'), V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_14 ('MC1E'), V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_16 ('MC1G'), V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_20 ('MC1K'), V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_24 ('MC1O'), V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_2_24 ('MC2O')
> > > > +**************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
> > > > +
> > > > +
> > > > +Generic line-based metadata formats
> > > > +
> > > > +
> > > > +Description
> > > > +===========
> > > > +
> > > > +These generic line-based metadata formats define the memory layout of the data
> > > > +without defining the format or meaning of the metadata itself. These formats may
> > > > +only be used with a Media controller pipeline where the more specific format is
> > > > +defined in an :ref:`internal source pad <MEDIA-PAD-FL-INTERNAL>` of the source
> > > > +sub-device. See also :ref:`source routes <v4l2-subdev-source-routes>`.
> > > > +
> > > > +.. _v4l2-meta-fmt-generic-8:
> > > > +
> > > > +V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_8
> > > > +-----------------------
> > > > +
> > > > +The V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_8 format is a plain 8-bit metadata format.
> > > > +
> > > > +This format is also used on CSI-2 on both 8 bits per sample as well as on
> > > 
> > > s/also on/by/
> > > 
> > > I would also mention "MIPI CCS" instead of "CSI-2".
> > 
> > If CCS were to be mentioned here, then all uses of this format should be
> > included as well.
> > 
> > > > +16 bits per sample when two bytes of metadata are packed into one sample.
> > > 
> > > "bits per sample" is very ill-defined for metadata, as there's no
> > > sample. I would write "for both the RAW8 packing and the 2 bytes RAW16
> > > packing" or something similar.
> > > 
> > > Similar comments for below.
> > 
> > From CSI-2 bus point of view there's no difference between pixel and
> > embedded data when it comes to encoding that data. "Sample" is the next
> > best term beyond "pixel", as the bus can carry samples that may or may not
> > be pixel data. But I'm fine with changing the wording if you think it makes
> > it more understandable.
> 
> The CSI-2 specification doesn't seem to define any "sample" concept.
> 
> > > > +
> > > > +**Byte Order Of V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_8.**
> > > > +Each cell is one byte. "M" denotes a byte of metadata.
> > > > +
> > > > +.. tabularcolumns:: |p{2.4cm}|p{1.2cm}|p{1.2cm}|p{1.2cm}|p{1.2cm}|
> > > > +
> > > > +.. flat-table::
> > > > +    :header-rows:  0
> > > > +    :stub-columns: 0
> > > > +    :widths: 12 8 8 8 8
> > > > +
> > > > +    * - start + 0:
> > > > +      - M\ :sub:`00`
> > > > +      - M\ :sub:`10`
> > > > +      - M\ :sub:`20`
> > > > +      - M\ :sub:`30`
> > > > +    * - start + 4:
> > > > +      - M\ :sub:`01`
> > > > +      - M\ :sub:`11`
> > > > +      - M\ :sub:`21`
> > > > +      - M\ :sub:`31`
> > > > +
> > > > +.. _v4l2-meta-fmt-generic-csi2-10:
> > > > +
> > > > +V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_10
> > > > +-----------------------------
> > > > +
> > > > +V4L2_META_FMT_GENERIC_CSI2_10 contains packed 8-bit generic metadata, 10 bits
> > > > +for each 8 bits of data. Every four bytes of metadata is followed by a single
> > > > +byte of padding.
> > > 
> > > It sounds really weird to write that this format writes 10 bits for each
> > > 8 bits of data, when essentially it adds a packing byte every four
> > > bytes.
> > 
> > That's how the hardware has been implemented and probably there is a
> > hardware implementation related reason for this.
> 
> I can imagine the specification has been designed to make it possible to
> push embedded data and pixel data through the same serialization
> hardware, but I can't tell if that's how hardware has been implemented.
> Still, from an application point of view, when documenting pixel
> formats, it sounds confusing. Can't we instead say that there's a 0x55
> padding after every four bytes of data ?

What if we get an implementation that does not use 0x55 value for padding?

It'd be safer not to define the value of the padding byte, it doesn't
matter from parsing point in any case.

-- 
Sakari Ailus



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