Re: [RFC 5/7] media: uapi: Add generic serial metadata mbus formats

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Hi Laurent,

On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 01:36:41PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Sakari,
> 
> Thank you for the patch.
> 
> On Sat, May 06, 2023 at 12:52:55AM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > Add generic serial metadata mbus formats. These formats describe data
> > width and packing but not the content itself. The reason for specifying
> > such formats is that the formats as such are fairly device specific but
> > they are still handled by CSI-2 receiver drivers that should not be aware
> > of device specific formats. What makes generic metadata formats possible
> > is that these formats are parsed by software only, after capturing the
> > data to system memory.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > ---
> >  .../media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst              | 257 ++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h         |   9 +
> >  2 files changed, 266 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst
> > index a3a35eeed708..1492fff58426 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/subdev-formats.rst
> > @@ -8234,3 +8234,260 @@ The following table lists the existing metadata formats.
> >  	both sides of the link and the bus format is a fixed
> >  	metadata format that is not configurable from userspace.
> >  	Width and height will be set to 0 for this format.
> > +
> > +Generic Serial Metadata Formats
> > +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > +
> > +Generic serial metadata formats are used on serial busses where the actual data
> 
> s/busses/buses/
> 
> > +content is more or less device specific but the data is transmitted and received
> > +by multiple devices that do not process the data in any way, simply writing
> > +it to system memory for processing in software at the end of the pipeline.
> > +
> > +The more specific variant describing the actual data is used on the internal
> > +source pad of the originating sub-device.
> 
> What do you mean by "more specific variant" here ? Please include an
> example in the documentation.
> 
> I'm not sure I like mentioning internal source pads here, are we
> guaranteed that metadata will always originate from an internal source
> pad ?

We'll have to, otherwise the specific format will be visible on the link,
and link validator on the sink end won't (and shouldn't) know about it (and
that would systematically lead to a failure to validate it).

> 
> > +
> > +"b" in an array cell signifies a byte of data, followed by the number of byte
> > +and finally the bit number in subscript. "p" indicates a padding bit.
> > +
> > +.. _media-bus-format-generic-meta:
> > +
> > +.. cssclass: longtable
> > +
> > +.. flat-table:: Generic Serial Metadata Formats
> > +    :header-rows:  2
> > +    :stub-columns: 0
> > +
> > +    * - Identifier
> > +      - Code
> > +      -
> > +      - :cspan:`23` Data organization
> > +    * -
> > +      -
> > +      - Bit
> > +      - 23
> > +      - 22
> > +      - 21
> > +      - 20
> > +      - 19
> > +      - 18
> > +      - 17
> > +      - 16
> > +      - 15
> > +      - 14
> > +      - 13
> > +      - 12
> > +      - 11
> > +      - 10
> > +      - 9
> > +      - 8
> > +      - 7
> > +      - 6
> > +      - 5
> > +      - 4
> > +      - 3
> > +      - 2
> > +      - 1
> > +      - 0
> > +    * .. _MEDIA-BUS-FMT-META-1X8-8:
> > +
> > +      - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_8
> > +      - 0x8001
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`7`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`6`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`5`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`4`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`3`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`2`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`1`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`0`
> > +    * .. _MEDIA-BUS-FMT-META-1X8-10:
> > +
> > +      - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_10
> > +      - 0x8002
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`7`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`6`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`5`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`4`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`3`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`2`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`1`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`0`
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +    * .. _MEDIA-BUS-FMT-META-1X8-12:
> > +
> > +      - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_12
> > +      - 0x8003
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`7`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`6`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`5`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`4`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`3`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`2`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`1`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`0`
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +    * .. _MEDIA-BUS-FMT-META-1X8-14:
> > +
> > +      - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_14
> > +      - 0x8004
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`7`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`6`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`5`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`4`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`3`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`2`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`1`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`0`
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +    * .. _MEDIA-BUS-FMT-META-1X8-16:
> > +
> > +      - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_16
> > +      - 0x8005
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`7`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`6`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`5`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`4`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`3`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`2`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`1`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`0`
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +    * .. _MEDIA-BUS-FMT-META-1X8-20:
> > +
> > +      - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_20
> > +      - 0x8007
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      -
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`7`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`6`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`5`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`4`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`3`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`2`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`1`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`0`
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +    * .. _MEDIA-BUS-FMT-META-1X8-24:
> > +
> > +      - MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_24
> > +      - 0x8009
> > +      -
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`7`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`6`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`5`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`4`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`3`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`2`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`1`
> > +      - b0\ :sub:`0`
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > +      - p
> > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h b/include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h
> > index a03c543cb072..722463523bbd 100644
> > --- a/include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h
> > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/media-bus-format.h
> > @@ -173,4 +173,13 @@
> >   */
> >  #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_METADATA_FIXED		0x7001
> >  
> > +/* Generic line based metadata formats for serial buses. Next is 0x800b. */
> > +#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_8		0x8001
> > +#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_10		0x8002
> > +#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_12		0x8003
> > +#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_14		0x8004
> > +#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_16		0x8005
> > +#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_20		0x8007
> > +#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_1X8_24		0x8009
> 
> We've discussed this before privately, it's time to come to a conclusion
> :-)
> 
> My preference would be 
> 
> #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_RAW8			0x8001
> #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_RAW10		0x8002
> #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_RAW12		0x8003
> #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_RAW14		0x8004
> #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_RAW16		0x8005
> #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_RAW20		0x8007
> #define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_META_RAW24		0x8009
> 
> without defining the contents of the data (that is, no mention of
> padding bits).

I don't object but I'd like to know what others think.

If we ever need formats with padding (or other depths than 8) we'll need to
change the naming. This may still be unlikely.

-- 
Regards,

Sakari Ailus



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