Re: [ANN] Media Summit June 26th: Draft Agenda v3

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On 06/06/2023 11:57, Umang Jain wrote:
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
> I am Umang and has been a contributor to libcamera.
> 
> I would like to attend the media-summit remotely. I am not sure if I have to register anywhere or just ask you to add me to the remote attendees list.
> 
> Umang Jain <umang.jain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Ideas On Board)

That's all I need! I'll post instructions for the Webex meeting a few days before
the summit starts.

Regards,

	Hans

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> On 6/2/23 6:10 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is version 3 of the agenda for the media summit. As always, it
>> is subject to change and all times are guesstimates!
>>
>> The media summit will be held at the Holiday Inn which is close to the
>> conference centre where the Embedded Open Source Summit is held:
>>
>> Holiday Inn Prague Congress Centre - Meeting room "E"
>> Na Pankráci 1684/ 15, 140 00 Praha 4-Nusle
>> https://www.ihg.com/holidayinn/hotels/us/en/prague/prgnp/hoteldetail
>>
>> Refreshments (tea/coffee/soda) are available during the day.
>>
>> The meeting room is sponsored by Collabora and Cisco Systems Norway.
>> And lunch is sponsored by Ideas On Board.
>>
>> Many thanks to the sponsors!
>>
>> In-Person Attendees:
>>
>> Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Intel)
>> Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Ideas On Board)
>> Deborah Brouwer <deborahbrouwer3563@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx> (Intel)
>> Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@xxxxxxxxxxxx> (Google)
>> Marco Felsch <m.felsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Pengutronix)
>> Sebastian Fricke <sebastian.fricke@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Collabora)
>> Martin Hecht <martin.hecht@xxxxxxxx> (Avnet)
>> Jai Luthra <j-luthra@xxxxxx> (TI)
>> Tommaso Merciai <tomm.merciai@xxxxxxxxx> (Avnet)
>> Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Ideas On Board)
>> Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Collabora)
>> Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Ideas On Board)
>> Michael Roeder <michael.roeder@xxxxxxxx> (Avnet)
>> Niklas Söderlund <niklas.soderlund@xxxxxxxxxxxx> (Ragnatech)
>> Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Raspberry Pi)
>> Martin Tůma <tumic@xxxxxxxxxx> (GPXSee)
>> Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@xxxxxxxxxx> (Linaro, tentative, after 16:30 only)
>> Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xxxxxxxxx> (Cisco Systems Norway)
>> Alain Volmat <alain.volmat@xxxxxxxxxxx> (ST Electronics)
>>
>> Remote Attendees:
>>
>> Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> (Collabora, tentative, afternoon only)
>> Hsia-Jun Li <Randy.Li@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Synaptics)
>>
>> I will email details on how to join remotely a few days before the media summit
>> starts.
>>
>> If you are listed as attendee (in person or remote) and you can't attend
>> after all, please let me know.
>>
>> If you are listed as presenting a topic during the meeting, then please
>> check if the details are correct. It would be really appreciated if you
>> can post any slides you have before the meeting (just reply to this message
>> with the presentation attached).
>>
>> Agenda:
>>
>> 8:45-9:15: get settled :-)
>>
>> 9:15-9:25: Hans: Quick introduction
>>
>> 9:25-10:15: Daniel Almeida: Rust V4L2 support
>>
>>      Discuss the potential blockers as well as the roadmap and priorities for
>>      bindings. Present what is currently supported and what isn't in the Rust
>>      code for V4L2. Identify potential candidates for new drivers that can be
>>      written in Rust. Discuss about maintainership issues related to Rust in V4L2.
>>
>> 10:15-10:30: Break
>>
>> 10:30-11:15 Hans & Hsia-Jun Li: "Add extended fmt and buffer" patch series
>>
>>      https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/project/linux-media/cover/20230206043308.28365-1-ayaka@xxxxxxxxxxx/
>>
>>      We've been postponing the work on this, but I think we need to decide how to
>>      proceed since pixel formats and single vs multi planar is getting to be a nightmare.
>>
>>      More details from Hsia-Jun Li:
>>
>>      1. v4l2 header would only maintain the codec format and pixel format in bus.
>>      2. the pixel formats would be maintained by the DirectRender, those M
>>         variant would not be supported in the new extend pixel format API.
>>      3. The number of plane for a pixel format would also responds for its data
>>         layout. Ex. NV12 = 2 planes(luma, chroma), I420 = 3 planes(Y, U, V).
>>      4. Userspace that supports new extend API could access those driver didn't
>>         adapt the new API, kernel would have a backward compatible layer. While
>>         the opposite backward compatible is not offered (old API userspace can't
>>         access the driver support the new API).
>>
>>      [optional part]
>>      5. An alloc flag would be introduced for allocating those M variant buf.
>>         https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230322105226.122467-1-randy.li@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/
>>      6. Stateless codec format would be a modifier to the stateful codec format.
>>         We could support different packing mode here.
>>
>> 11:15-11:30: Break
>>
>> 11:30-12:15: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz: Stateless Encoders: VP8
>>
>>      - Introduction to stateless encoders and previous work in this area
>>
>>      https://github.com/bootlin/linux/tree/hantro/h264-encoding-v5.11
>>
>>      https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20230309125651.23911-1-andrzej.p@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/T/
>>
>>      - High level decisions
>>      - Rate control
>>      - VP8 uAPI
>>      - Challenges
>>
>> 12:15-13:30: Lunch
>>
>> 13:30-14:00: Ricardo Ribalda Delgado: KCAM update
>>
>>      I would like to share the progress on KCAM from our end.
>>
>>      I am also trying to collect all the requirements that we are getting
>>      from vendors regarding V4L2.
>>
>> 14:00-14:45: Sakari: generic line-based metadata formats:
>>
>>      https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20230505215257.60704-1-sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/T/#t
>>
>> 14:45-??:??: Mauro & sub-maintainers: Subsystem development process
>>
>>      How to improve it? How do we get more maintainers? It's not working very
>>      well at the moment.
>>
>>      Mauro will present how the media CI works today.
>>      Hans will present how the daily build scripts work.
>>
>>      Can this be harmonized?
>>
>> Final short topic: Hans: Should we keep the media summit together with the ELCE conference?
>>      Or organize it separately, and ask a company like Cisco, Intel or Collabora
>>      to organize a room. What would work best? Anything to improve on this?
>>
>> We have the room until 18:30, but (fingers crossed) I hope to finish before that.
>>
>> The "Add extended fmt and buffer" and the "Subsystem development process" are
>> *very* hard to predict. I want to limit the initial discussion of the that first
>> topic to 45-60 minutes, and continue (if needed) in the afternoon after the discussion
>> about the subsystem development process. We will have see how it goes.
>>
>> Please reply with corrections, questions, etc. to this email. I'll update the agenda
>> over time.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Hans
> 




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