> -----Original Message----- > From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 6:42 PM > > Hi, > > On 3/1/23 11:34, Sakari Ailus wrote: > > Hi Wentong, > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:23:44AM +0800, Wentong Wu wrote: > >> Intel Visual Sensing Controller (IVSC), codenamed "Clover Falls", is > >> a companion chip designed to provide secure and low power vision > >> capability to IA platforms. IVSC is available in existing commercial > >> platforms from multiple OEMs. > >> > >> The primary use case of IVSC is to bring in context awareness. IVSC > >> interfaces directly with the platform main camera sensor via a CSI-2 > >> link and processes the image data with the embedded AI engine. The > >> detected events are sent over I2C to ISH (Intel Sensor Hub) for > >> additional data fusion from multiple sensors. The fusion results are > >> used to implement advanced use cases like: > >> - Face detection to unlock screen > >> - Detect user presence to manage backlight setting or waking up > >> system > >> > >> Since the Image Processing Unit(IPU) used on the host processor needs > >> to configure the CSI-2 link in normal camera usages, the CSI-2 link > >> and camera sensor can only be used in mutually-exclusive ways by host > >> IPU and IVSC. By default the IVSC owns the CSI-2 link and camera > >> sensor. The IPU driver can take ownership of the CSI-2 link and > >> camera sensor using interfaces provided by this IVSC driver. > >> > >> Switching ownership requires an interface with two different hardware > >> modules inside IVSC. The software interface to these modules is via > >> Intel MEI (The Intel Management Engine) commands. These two hardware > >> modules have two different MEI UUIDs to enumerate. These hardware > modules are: > >> - ACE (Algorithm Context Engine): This module is for algorithm > >> computing when IVSC owns camera sensor. Also ACE module controls > >> camera sensor's ownership. This hardware module is used to set ownership > of camera sensor. > >> - CSI (Camera Serial Interface): This module is used to route camera > >> sensor data either to IVSC or to host for IPU driver and application. > >> > >> IVSC also provides a privacy mode. When privacy mode is turned on, > >> camera sensor can't be used. This means that both ACE and host IPU > >> can't get image data. And when this mode is turned on, host IPU > >> driver is informed via a registered callback, so that user can be notified. > >> > >> In summary, to acquire ownership of camera by IPU driver, first ACE > >> module needs to be informed of ownership and then to setup MIPI CSI-2 > >> link for the camera sensor and IPU. > > > > I thought this for a while and did some research, and I can suggest > > the > > following: > > > > - The IVSC sub-device implements a control for privacy (V4L2_CID_PRIVACY > > is a good fit). > > > > - Camera sensor access needs to be requested from IVSC before accessing the > > sensor via I²C. The IVSC ownership control needs to be in the right > > setting for this to work, and device links can be used for that purpose > > (see device_link_add()). With DL_FLAG_PM_RUNTIME and > DL_FLAG_RPM_ACTIVE, > > the supplier devices will be PM runtime resumed before the consumer > > (camera sensor). As these devices are purely virtual on host side and has > > no power state as such, you can use runtime PM callbacks to transfer the > > ownership. > > Interesting proposal to use device-links + runtime-pm for this instead of > modelling this as an i2c-mux. FWIW I'm fine with going this route instead of > using an i2c-mux approach. > > I have been thinking about the i2c-mux approach a bit and the problem is that > we are not really muxing but want to turn on/off control and AFAIK the i2c-mux > framework simply leaves the mux muxed to the last used i2c-chain, so control > will never be released when the i2c transfers are done. > > And if were to somehow modify things (or maybe there already is some release > callback) then the downside becomes that the i2c-mux core code operates at > the i2c transfer level. So each i2c read/write would then enable + disavle control. > > Modelling this using something like runtime pm as such is a much better fit > because then we request control once on probe / stream-on and release it once > we are fully done, rather then requesting + releasing control once per i2c- > transfer. Seems runtime pm can't fix the problem of initial i2c transfer during sensor driver probe, probably we have to switch to i2c-mux modeling way. Thanks Wentong > > Regards, > > Hans > > > > > > > - The CSI-2 configuration should take place when streaming starts on the > > sensor (as well as IVSC). > > > > - Device links need to be set up via IPU bridge which now is called CIO2 > > bridge (cio2-bridge.c). > > > > Any questions, comments? > >