On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 05:02:40PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 04:54:53PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > For the time being, I agree with your recommendation to not buy these > > devices if you care about camera support. > > I second this, don't buy these devices if the vendor is not willing to > get their drivers upstreamed properly. "Not willing" may be a bit too harsh here. I wouldn't just blame Intel for not upstreaming a driver if it turns out that the V4L2 API isn't a good match and we have no proposal to provide an alternative. This being said, I agree it's the vendor's responsibility to at least engage with the upstream community to find a solution, and collaborate on the implementation. I'm sure there have been way more private discussions than I'm aware of, maybe now is the right time to extend this to a wider audience and create a realistic plan on how to move forward. You all know my e-mail address :-) -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart