Re: [PATCH 4/5] media: i2c: cat24c208: driver for the cat24c208 EDID EEPROM

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On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 2:11 PM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 29/07/2022 14:00, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:21 AM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On 28/07/2022 22:56, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:23 PM Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> On 28/07/2022 14:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, July 28, 2022, Erling Ljunggren <hljunggr@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:hljunggr@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>     Support reading and writing the EDID EEPROM through the
> >>>>>     v4l2 API.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why the normal way of representing as a memory (we have framework and drivers) can’t work?
> >>>>
> >>>> Because support for EDID for video sinks is already part of the media subsystem (V4L2).
> >>>> Normally it is integrated into an HDMI receiver, but in this case it is just the EDID
> >>>> support without the video receiver. It belongs in drivers/media in any case since EDIDs
> >>>> are closely tied to media.
> >>>
> >>> It's fine. From the Linux perspective we do not reduplicate the
> >>> drivers that are done by other frameworks, right?
> >>>
> >>>>> Moreover, this driver seems limited in support of variety of the eeprom chips.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not quite sure what you mean. The cat24c208 is what this was developed for and
> >>>> the only one we have.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that an EDID EEPROM != a regular EEPROM: it has to support the VESA E-DDC
> >>>> standard, which a normal EEPROM doesn't. So these devices are specifically made
> >>>> for this use-case.
> >>>
> >>> What is the difference from a programming interface?
> >>> Can the nvmem driver(s) be reused (at24?)?
> >>
> >> No. EDID EEPROM devices are specific to storing EDIDs: they have two i2c
> >> ports, one connected to (typically) the HDMI bus (DDC lines) allowing a
> >> video source to read the EDID, the other is connected to the SoC to write to
> >> and configure the device. The HDMI bus side has two i2c addresses (reading the
> >> EEPROM and to write to the segment address for EDIDs > 256 bytes), the SoC
> >> side has three i2c addresses: to configure the behavior, the segment address,
> >> and to write the EDID from the SoC.
> >>
> >> So it is a much more complex device than a regular eeprom, and it really
> >> is dedicated to EDIDs only.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation, but it's still unclear what the
> > differences are in the programming interface there. Perhaps you may
> > simply register a platform device in this driver and reuse the rest
> > from at24?
>
> No, it's really different from a regular eeprom.
>
> >> Also note that the V4L2 API is already used to get/set EDIDs, everything is
> >> in place for supporting that, including support for parsing EDIDs for the
> >> physical address, which is something that is needed if this is combined with
> >> HDMI CEC hardware. It's not implemented in this driver since it is not
> >> needed in our use-case, but that might change in the future.
> >>
> >> And by using the V4L2 API you can use v4l2-ctl --get-edid and --set-edid
> >> out of the box, using the standard API for EDIDs.
> >
> > Bonus question: we have cat24c04/cat24c05 are recognized by at24
> > already, are they different to cat24c08?
> >
>
> Yes, they are different.

Thanks for your patience and elaboration, I got it.

Would this driver be used only by v4l2? Or potentially some other
hardware may need it (DRM?)?


-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko




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