Hi All, With my (and Dan's) kernel patch-series to enable the back camera on the Surface Go shaping up (and hopefully going upstream soon), the next step is to enable control of the focus lens for the back camera. The focus is controlled through a separate i2c-client which is described by a 2nd I2cSerialBusV2 resource entry in the ACPI device for the ov8865 sensor. By default the kernel only instantiates an i2c-client for the first I2cSerialBusV2 resource entry for an ACPI device, getting an i2c-client for the 2nd one is easy and out of scope for this discussion. The question which I have is, assuming we have the 2nd i2c-client instantiated and we have a i2c-driver binding to it, how do we represent the focus control to userspace. I see 2 possible directions we can go here: 1. Somehow inject an extra v4l2ctrl for this into the v4l2ctrl list of the sensor. AFAIK we don't have infra for this atm, but we could add some generic mechanism to do this to the v4l2-ctrls core. IMHO from a userspace pov this is the cleanest, but at the cost of some extra work / possible ugliness on the kernel side. 2. Register a separate v4l2_subdev for the focus-ctrl and in some way provide information to userspace to which sensor this belongs. I believe that both are valid approaches. So before diving into this I wonder what others are thinking about this. Specific questions: 1. Hans Verkuil, what do you think about adding support for another driver to inject ctrls into the ctrl list of another v4l2(sub)dev ? Maybe something like this already exists ? If not do you think this is feasible and desirable to add ? 2. If we go with a separate v4l2_subdev, how do we communicate to which sensor the focus-control belongs to userspace ? Regards, Hans