Re: [PATCH v4] dma-buf: Add DmaBufTotal counter in meminfo

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Am 19.04.21 um 17:19 schrieb Peter.Enderborg@xxxxxxxx:
On 4/19/21 5:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Mon 19-04-21 12:41:58, Peter.Enderborg@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On 4/19/21 2:16 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Sat 17-04-21 12:40:32, Peter Enderborg wrote:
This adds a total used dma-buf memory. Details
can be found in debugfs, however it is not for everyone
and not always available. dma-buf are indirect allocated by
userspace. So with this value we can monitor and detect
userspace applications that have problems.
The changelog would benefit from more background on why this is needed,
and who is the primary consumer of that value.

I cannot really comment on the dma-buf internals but I have two remarks.
Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst needs an update with the counter
explanation and secondly is this information useful for OOM situations
analysis? If yes then show_mem should dump the value as well.

 From the implementation point of view, is there any reason why this
hasn't used the existing global_node_page_state infrastructure?
I fix doc in next version.  Im not sure what you expect the commit message to include.
As I've said. Usual justification covers answers to following questions
	- Why do we need it?
	- Why the existing data is insuficient?
	- Who is supposed to use the data and for what?

I can see an answer for the first two questions (because this can be a
lot of memory and the existing infrastructure is not production suitable
- debugfs). But the changelog doesn't really explain who is going to use
the new data. Is this a monitoring to raise an early alarm when the
value grows? Is this for debugging misbehaving drivers? How is it
valuable for those?

The function of the meminfo is: (From Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst)

"Provides information about distribution and utilization of memory."
True. Yet we do not export any random counters, do we?

Im not the designed of dma-buf, I think  global_node_page_state as a kernel
internal.
It provides a node specific and optimized counters. Is this a good fit
with your new counter? Or the NUMA locality is of no importance?
Sounds good to me, if Christian Koenig think it is good, I will use that.
It is only virtio in drivers that use the global_node_page_state if
that matters.

DMA-buf are not NUMA aware at all. On which node the pages are allocated (and if we use pages at all and not internal device memory) is up to the exporter and importer.

Christian.



dma-buf is a device driver that provides a function so I might be
on the outside. However I also see that it might be relevant for a OOM.
It is memory that can be freed by killing userspace processes.

The show_mem thing. Should it be a separate patch?
This is up to you but if you want to expose the counter then send it in
one series.





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