Hi Mauro, On Thursday 06 May 2010 14:38:36 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Thursday 06 May 2010 01:29:54 Aguirre, Sergio wrote: > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab [mailto:mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx] > >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:24 PM > >>> To: Aguirre, Sergio > >>> Cc: linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: Re: [videobuf] Query: Condition bytesize limit in > >>> videobuf_reqbufs -> buf_setup() call? > >>> > >>> Aguirre, Sergio wrote: > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> While working on an old port of the omap3 camera-isp driver, > >>>> I have faced some problem. > >>>> > >>>> Basically, when calling VIDIOC_REQBUFS with a certain buffer > >>>> > >>>> Count, we had a software limit for total size, calculated depending on: > >>>> Total bytesize = bytesperline x height x count > >>>> > >>>> So, we had an arbitrary limit to, say 32 MB, which was generic. > >>>> > >>>> Now, we want to condition it ONLY when MMAP buffers will be used. > >>>> Meaning, we don't want to keep that policy when the kernel is not > >>>> allocating the space > >>>> > >>>> But the thing is that, according to videobuf documentation, buf_setup > >>>> is the one who should put a RAM usage limit. BUT the memory type > >>>> passed to reqbufs is not propagated to buf_setup, therefore forcing me > >>>> to go to a non-standard memory limitation in my reqbufs callback > >>>> function, instead of doing it properly inside buf_setup. > >>>> > >>>> Is this scenario a good consideration to change buf_setup API, and > >>>> propagate buffers memory type aswell? > >>> > >>> I don't see any problem on propagating the memory type to buffer_setup, > >>> if this is really needed. Yet, I can't see why you would restrict the > >>> buffer size to 32 MB on one case, and not restrict the size at all with > >>> non-MMAP types. > >> > >> Ok, my reason for doing that is because I thought that there should be a > >> memory limit in whichever place you're doing the buffer allocations. > >> > >> MMAP is allocating buffers in kernel, so kernel should provide a memory > >> restriction, if applies. > >> > >> USERPTR is allocating buffers in userspace, so userspace should provide > >> a memory restriction, if applies. > > > > I agree with the intend here, but not with the current implementation > > which has a hardcoded arbitrary limit. Do you think it would be possible > > to compute a meaningful default limit in the V4L2 core, with a way for > > userspace to modify it (with root privileges of course) ? > > On almost all drivers, the limit is not arbitrary. It is a reasonable > number of buffers (like 16 buffers). A limit in terms of the number of > buffers is meaningful for V4L2 API, and also, has a "physical meaning": > considering that almost all drivers that use videobuf can do at maximum 30 > fps, 16 buffers mean that the maximum delay that the driver will apply to > the stream is 533 ms. > > Some drivers even provide a modprobe parameter to allow changing this limit > (for example, bttv allows changing it up to 32 buffers), but only during > module load time. I can't foresee any use case where this maximum limit > would need to be dynamically adjusted. Root can always change it by > removing and re-inserting the module with a new maximum size. I wasn't talking about the limit on the number of buffers, but on the amount of memory. That's what Sergio was mentioning, and that's what is done in the OMAP3 ISP driver. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html