Re: vb2_queue type question

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Hi Hans,

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:49:26AM +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On 22/03/2021 10:18, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> > Hi Hans,
> > 
> > We were discussing this with Laurent and Sakari, I thought I'd ask if 
> > you have any feedback on this.
> > 
> > struct vb2_queue has 'type' field, so you can only use a queue for 
> > buffers of a single type. struct video_device has 'queue' field, so you 
> > can only use a single queue for a video_device instance.
> > 
> > TI's SoCs have a CSI-2 receiver, with a bunch of DMA engines. The HW 
> > doesn't care if we are currently capturing pixel buffers or metadata 
> > buffers (I don't have experience with other HW, but I imagine this 
> > shouldn't be a rare case). However, due to vb2_queue, the driver needs 
> > to decide which one to support, which limits the possible use cases.
> > 
> > I was browsing the code, and afaics the type field doesn't do much. It 
> > is, of course, used to reject queuing buffers of wrong type, and also 
> > (mostly in mem-2-mem code) to find out if functions are called in input 
> > or output context.
> > 
> > The latter one could be easily removed by just comparing the given queue 
> > pointer to a stored pointer (e.g. queue == priv->input_queue).
> > 
> > Do you see any problems if we were to change the type field to 
> > type_mask, allowing multiple buffer types per queue? Or even remove the 
> > vb2_queue->type. This raises some questions, like should a queue contain 
> > only buffers of a single type or can it contain a mix of buffers (I 
> > think it shouldn't contain a mix of buffers), or can a queue's type_mask 
> > contain both input and output types (I don't see why not).
> > 
> > An alternate which I tried was creating two vb2_queues, and switching 
> > the video_device->queue at runtime based on set_format. It kind of 
> > works, but I think the behavior is a bit unclear, and it might be 
> > difficult to catch all the corner cases.
> 
> A vb2_queue basically represents a buffer queue that will be fed to a
> DMA engine. It assumes that all the buffers are of the same format,
> which typically is tied directly to the type.
> 
> The type of a vb2_queue can be changed if you like, but once buffers
> are allocated it is fixed and can't be changed again until all buffers
> are released. So you can't mix buffers of different types.
> 
> This is actually done in the vivid driver: see vidioc_s_fmt_vbi_cap()
> and vidioc_s_fmt_sliced_vbi_cap(): depending on the format the queue
> type will be set to either capture raw or sliced VBI.
> 
> The ivtv driver does the same thing.
> 
> So as long as vb2_is_busy() returns false, you are free to change the
> queue type.
> 
> There is no need for a type_mask or anything like that. That's up to
> the bridge driver to check. The vb2_queue type is there to ensure that
> userspace isn't trying to mix buffers of different types, but as long
> as no buffers are allocated it doesn't do anything and you are free to
> change it.

I wasn't aware of this design rationale. It would be useful to expand
the documentation of vb2_queue.type to document this. Or have I missed a
different location where this is already explained ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart



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