Re: [V7, 1/2] media: dt-bindings: media: i2c: Document OV02A10 bindings

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Hi Sakari,

Pardon, have you noticed my rely below?
Please let us know of any questions or suggestions you have.

On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 10:30 +0800, Dongchun Zhu wrote:
> Hi Sakari, Tomasz,
> 
> Thanks for the review.
> 
> On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 16:57 +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM Sakari Ailus
> > <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > hi Dongchun,
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 07:41:05PM +0800, Dongchun Zhu wrote:
> > > > Hi Sakari,
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 01:35 +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > > Hi Dongchun,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 02:51:25PM +0800, Dongchun Zhu wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Sakari, Tomasz,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 16:25 +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 4:12 PM Sakari Ailus
> > > > > > > <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Tomasz, Dongchun,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 03:50:40PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi Sakari and Dongchun,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 3:00 PM Dongchun Zhu <dongchun.zhu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Sakari,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the review.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 14:21 +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dongchun,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 10:17:18PM +0800, Dongchun Zhu wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sakari,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the review.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2020-05-05 at 10:04 +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dongchun,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 04:09:23PM +0800, Dongchun Zhu wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add DT bindings documentation for Omnivision OV02A10 image sensor.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Dongchun Zhu <dongchun.zhu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  .../bindings/media/i2c/ovti,ov02a10.yaml           | 148 +++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  MAINTAINERS                                        |   7 +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  2 files changed, 155 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/ovti,ov02a10.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/ovti,ov02a10.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/ovti,ov02a10.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > index 0000000..2be4bd2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/i2c/ovti,ov02a10.yaml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,148 @@
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +# Copyright (c) 2020 MediaTek Inc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/media/i2c/ovti,ov02a10.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +title: Omnivision OV02A10 CMOS Sensor Device Tree Bindings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  - Dongchun Zhu <dongchun.zhu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +description: |-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  The Omnivision OV02A10 is a low-cost, high performance, 1/5-inch, 2 megapixel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  image sensor, which is the latest production derived from Omnivision's CMOS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  image sensor technology. Ihis chip supports high frame rate speeds up to 30fps
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  @ 1600x1200 (UXGA) resolution transferred over a 1-lane MIPI interface. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  sensor output is available via CSI-2 serial data output.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    const: ovti,ov02a10
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: top mux camtg clock
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - description: devider clock
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: eclk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - const: freq_mux
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  clock-frequency:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      Frequency of the eclk clock in Hertz.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  dovdd-supply:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      Definition of the regulator used as interface power supply.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  avdd-supply:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      Definition of the regulator used as analog power supply.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  dvdd-supply:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      Definition of the regulator used as digital power supply.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  powerdown-gpios:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      The phandle and specifier for the GPIO that controls sensor powerdown.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  reset-gpios:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      The phandle and specifier for the GPIO that controls sensor reset.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  rotation:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      Definition of the sensor's placement, valid values are 0 and 180.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    allOf:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - $ref: "/schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      - enum:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +          - 0    # Sensor Mounted Upright
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +          - 180  # Sensor Mounted Upside Down
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +  ovti,mipi-tx-speed:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +      Indication of MIPI transmission speed select.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What exactly does this signify? And how do you come up with the number?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Apologies for not addressing this number clear.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From the datasheet, P1:0xA1 register represents TX_SPEED_AREA_SEL with
> > > > > > > > > > > > the default val: 0x03.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The description of this RW register is as below:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Bit[2:0]: MIPI transmission speed select.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thus the enum should be definited as [ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ].
> > > > > > > > > > > > This would be fixed in next release.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, as the default val of P1:0xA1 is 0x03, we hope to keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > that value if there is no setting for this private property in DT.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The caller in driver would be updated like this in next release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > if (ov02a10->mipi_clock_tx_speed)
> > > > > > > > > > > >     ret = i2c_smbus_write_byte_data(...,...);
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How did you pick the value in the example? And why do you believe it is
> > > > > > > > > > > specific to a platform, and not e.g. a sensor mode?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We look into P1:0XA1, one register that defines MIPI transmission speed
> > > > > > > > > > select.
> > > > > > > > > > From the datasheet, we can get the possible values that could be set to
> > > > > > > > > > P1:0xA1.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Actually this register is an independent of sensor mode, it is just
> > > > > > > > > > included in sensor mode's register setting table.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In addition, this private DT Property is created to fix the MIPI test
> > > > > > > > > > failure. The register values are adjusted and verified from vendor to
> > > > > > > > > > make sensor signal meet MIPI specification.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In theory the value could depend on the mode, because different link
> > > > > > > > > rate could impose different requirements for the physical interface.
> > > > > > > > > In practice, we haven't seen any hardware that would require different
> > > > > > > > > values for different modes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The mode (possibly in conjunction with other information available to the
> > > > > > > > driver via V4L2 fwnode interface) precisely defines the parameters of the
> > > > > > > > CSI-2 bus --- apart from the possible exception of the bus timing related
> > > > > > > > parameters but this is not supported by the name of the parameter.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Therefore I don't see how this parameter, which supposedly is used to
> > > > > > > > determine the CSI-2 transmissions speed, could be board specific and thus
> > > > > > > > belong to DT.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > According to the very imprecise information I have access to, it is
> > > > > > > not about the CSI-2 bus itself, but rather some internal parameter of
> > > > > > > the sensor's CSI interface. Unfortunately there isn't much information
> > > > > > > on what this value exactly controls...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > Tomasz
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just got some feedback from OV vendor about this parameter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P1:0xA1 is the register to control D-PHY timing setting based on bclk.
> > > > > > It is to adjust the MIPI clock voltage to improve the clock drive
> > > > > > capability, and has no affect on the transmission speed of MIPI data.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From vendor's perspective, P1:0xA1 depends upon the length of FPC of
> > > > > > camera module that used on the board. Considering the physical
> > > > > > connections for MIPI signals to user-facing camera are very different
> > > > > > between our 2 projects, it can be very difficult to find universal SI
> > > > > > parameters for both projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you using different values for this parameter on these two projects?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes. We're actually assigning two different values to this property.
> > > > One is 0x03, the other is 0x04.
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thus here we create one new DT property to separate these tuning in
> > > > > > driver, to be more like project-specific.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More details about the register is as below.
> > > > > > P1:0xA1 val: 0x03 default
> > > > > > Case: 0  20MHz-30MHz
> > > > > >       1  30MHz-50MHz
> > > > > >       2  50MHz-75MHz
> > > > > >       3  75MHz-100MHz   (default, old DB setting use)
> > > > > >       4  100MHz-130MHz  (suggested, new DB setting use)
> > > > > >       5  Manual
> > > > > > So the value in the example should be [ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Additionally, P1:0xA1 is recommended to be set as 0x04 in the newest DB
> > > > > > setting. We would adjust the register in next release.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for digging into the issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Based on the above description, the parameter would depend on both the link
> > > > > frequency and possibly also on wire length. I guess there's no harm from
> > > > > using too strong drive, apart from perhaps power consumption? As in
> > > > > principle this could be different for different sensor modes. Albeit I
> > > > > don't remember seeing a sensor where such a parameter would have been
> > > > > needed to be modified.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This may be related to something about sensor fine tuning.
> > > > As OV vendor pointed out, the sensor chip provides such one property
> > > > that user could adjust based on their specific project.
> > > > Also, case 4 (0x04) setting is confirmed to have a little more power
> > > > consumption than case 3 (0x03).
> > >
> > > Apologies for bringing back an old topic --- the driver supports just a
> > > single mode, using a specific data rate.
> > >
> > > If another mode is added later on, will it continue to use the same value
> > > for this? Based on the documentation, it seems that this is primarily
> > > defined by the frequency of the bus, not by board design. Therefore putting
> > > this to DT (and thus ignoring the frequency) appears wrong.
> > 
> > I don't think this is exactly implied by the frequency of the bus. The
> > values there are recommended for given frequency ranges, but there are
> > real cases where depending on the board different values are needed.
> > 
> 
> Sorry for coming late.
> For the reg P1: 0xA1, I re-confirmed the setting of the param with OVT.
> The replies are as follow.
> 1. P1:0xA1 is one register to control D-PHY timing parameters based on
> bclk. Its setting shall match the MIPI CSI-2 timing clock.
> 2. For one another scenario, if MIPI pixel rate(link frequency) differs
> between scenarios, the setting of this parameter may also be different.
> 3. In one special case, we may also need to adjust the value, even for
> the same scenario, such as the failure of a certain MIPI test.
> 
> From my perspective, temporally we don't plan to have a different
> scenario for OV02A10, as the current resolution(1600x1200) is near to
> the lower limit of most smart mobile devices.
> In the meantime, considering the difference of the physical connections
> for MIPI signals to user-facing camera between our 2 projects, it seems
> to be very difficult to find universal SI parameters for both projects.
> So for this case, I wonder whether we could reserve this private
> property to maintain such flexibility.
> 
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz
> 
> 





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