Re: [PATCH v6 1/9] media: v4l2-subdev: Introduce [get|set]_mbus_config pad ops

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On 19/07/2020 13:18, Janusz Krzysztofik wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 5:08:05 P.M. CEST Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> On 14/07/2020 15:58, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
>>> Introduce two new pad operations to allow retrieving and configuring the
>>> media bus parameters on a subdevice pad.
>>>
>>> The newly introduced operations aims to replace the s/g_mbus_config video
>>> operations, which have been on their way for deprecation since a long
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo+renesas@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> ---
>>>  include/media/v4l2-subdev.h | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/media/v4l2-subdev.h b/include/media/v4l2-subdev.h
>>> index f7fe78a6f65a..d8b9d5735307 100644
>>> --- a/include/media/v4l2-subdev.h
>>> +++ b/include/media/v4l2-subdev.h
>>> @@ -670,6 +670,29 @@ struct v4l2_subdev_pad_config {
>>>   *
>>>   * @set_frame_desc: set the low level media bus frame parameters, @fd array
>>>   *                  may be adjusted by the subdev driver to device capabilities.
>>> + *
>>> + * @get_mbus_config: get the media bus configuration of a remote sub-device.
>>> + *		     The media bus configuration is usually retrieved from the
>>> + *		     firmware interface at sub-device probe time, immediately
>>> + *		     applied to the hardware and eventually adjusted by the
>>> + *		     driver. Remote sub-devices (usually video receivers) shall
>>> + *		     use this operation to query the transmitting end bus
>>> + *		     configuration in order to adjust their own one accordingly.
>>> + *		     Callers should make sure they get the most up-to-date as
>>> + *		     possible configuration from the remote end, likely calling
>>> + *		     this operation as close as possible to stream on time. The
>>> + *		     operation shall fail if the pad index it has been called on
>>> + *		     is not valid.
>>> + *
>>> + * @set_mbus_config: set the media bus configuration of a remote sub-device.
>>> + *		     This operations is intended to allow, in combination with
>>> + *		     the get_mbus_config operation, the negotiation of media bus
>>> + *		     configuration parameters between media sub-devices. The
>>> + *		     operation shall not fail if the requested configuration is
>>> + *		     not supported, but the driver shall update the content of
>>> + *		     the %config argument to reflect what has been actually
>>> + *		     applied to the hardware. The operation shall fail if the
>>> + *		     pad index it has been called on is not valid.
>>>   */
>>
>> Hm, I'd hoped I could merge this, but I think include/media/v4l2-mediabus.h
>> also needs to be updated.
>>
>> So the old g_mbus_config returned all supported configurations, while the
>> new get_mbus_config returns the *current* configuration.
>>
>> That's fine, but that means that the meaning of the struct v4l2_mbus_config
>> flags field changes as well and several comments in v4l2-mediabus.h need to
>> be updated to reflect this.
>>
>> E.g. instead of '/* How many lanes the client can use */' it becomes
>> '/* How many lanes the client uses */'.
>>
>> Frankly, these flags can be redesigned now since you only need a single
>> e.g. V4L2_MBUS_HSYNC_ACTIVE_HIGH flag since if it is not set, then that
>> means ACTIVE_LOW. And since it is now a single bit, it is also easy to
>> make each flag a bit field.
> 
> Even if this makes sense for .get_mbus_config() which returns current 
> configuration, how about keeping the old semantics of the flags and let 
> .set_mbus_config() accept a potentially incomplete or redundant set of flags 
> specified by the caller to select a supported configuration from?  That approach 
> was actually proposed before by Jacopo when he argued against my suggestion to 
> add a wrapper with a check for mutually exclusive flags[1], and I found it a 
> very good alternative to my other rejected suggestion of adding TRY support.

The information on how a sensor (or similar device) is wired up is not something
that should be negotiated. Even if a combination is theoretically possible, it
may not have been tested by the board designer and in fact it might not work.
(Yes, that happens)

It is just a bad design trying to negotiate this.

In fact, the only values that can be set as far as I am concerned are lanes and
channels. I wouldn't mind if the other settings are purely read-only. The only
driver that actively sets this is the pxa_camera driver and I wish it didn't.

But there are still two pxa boards that use this mechanism, so I guess we still
have to allow this.

Anyway, do you have a specific use-case in mind? Note that this is an internal
API, so it can always be changed later.

Regards,

	Hans

> 
> [1] https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg171878.html
> 
> Thanks,
> Janusz
> 
>>
>> The CSI2 lanes/channels can just be a bit field for the number of lanes/channels,
>> which is much easier to read. I strongly recommend making this change at the minimum.
>>
>> Now all this can be done in a follow-up series, but the v4l2-mediabus.h
>> definitely needs to be updated to reflect the new code.
>>
>> This can be done as a v6 5.5/9 patch (since it should come right after the
>> g/s_mbus_config removal).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> 	Hans
>>
>>>  struct v4l2_subdev_pad_ops {
>>>  	int (*init_cfg)(struct v4l2_subdev *sd,
>>> @@ -710,6 +733,10 @@ struct v4l2_subdev_pad_ops {
>>>  			      struct v4l2_mbus_frame_desc *fd);
>>>  	int (*set_frame_desc)(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, unsigned int pad,
>>>  			      struct v4l2_mbus_frame_desc *fd);
>>> +	int (*get_mbus_config)(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, unsigned int pad,
>>> +			       struct v4l2_mbus_config *config);
>>> +	int (*set_mbus_config)(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, unsigned int pad,
>>> +			       struct v4l2_mbus_config *config);
>>>  };
>>>  
>>>  /**
>>>
>>
>>
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