Hi Sakari, On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:14:37PM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 03:11:08AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:52:50AM +0300, Sakari Ailus wrote: > > > While we have had some example drivers, there has been up to date no > > > formal documentation on how camera sensor drivers should be written; what > > > are the practices, why, and where they apply. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > --- > > > since v1: > > > > > > - Added power management documentation. > > > > I've reviewed v1, and most of the comments still apply. I'll comment on > > the new section below. > > > > > > > > The HTML docs are here: > > > > > > <URL:https://www.retiisi.eu/~sailus/v4l2/tmp/doc2/output/> > > > > > > .../driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst | 129 ++++++++++++++++++ > > > Documentation/driver-api/media/csi2.rst | 2 + > > > Documentation/driver-api/media/index.rst | 1 + > > > 3 files changed, 132 insertions(+) > > > create mode 100644 Documentation/driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst b/Documentation/driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst > > > new file mode 100644 > > > index 000000000000..fa71f07731a0 > > > --- /dev/null > > > +++ b/Documentation/driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst > > > @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ > > > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 > > > + > > > +Writing camera sensor drivers > > > +============================= > > > + > > > +CSI-2 > > > +----- > > > + > > > +Please see what is written on :ref:`MIPI_CSI_2`. > > > + > > > +Handling clocks > > > +--------------- > > > + > > > +Camera sensors have an internal clock tree including a PLL and a number of > > > +divisors. The clock tree is generally configured by the driver based on a few > > > +input parameters that are specific to the hardware:: the external clock frequency > > > +and the link frequency. The two parameters generally are obtained from system > > > +firmware. No other frequencies should be used in any circumstances. > > > + > > > +The reason why the clock frequencies are so important is that the clock signals > > > +come out of the SoC, and in many cases a specific frequency is designed to be > > > +used in the system. Using another frequency may cause harmful effects > > > +elsewhere. Therefore only the pre-determined frequencies are configurable by the > > > +user. > > > + > > > +Frame size > > > +---------- > > > + > > > +There are two distinct ways to configure the frame size produced by camera > > > +sensors. > > > + > > > +Freely configurable camera sensor drivers > > > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > + > > > +Freely configurable camera sensor drivers expose the device's internal > > > +processing pipeline as one or more sub-devices with different cropping and > > > +scaling configurations. The output size of the device is the result of a series > > > +of cropping and scaling operations from the device's pixel array's size. > > > + > > > +An example of such a driver is the smiapp driver (see drivers/media/i2c/smiapp). > > > + > > > +Register list based drivers > > > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > + > > > +Register list based drivers generally, instead of able to configure the device > > > +they control based on user requests, are limited to a number of preset > > > +configurations that combine a number of different parameters that on hardware > > > +level are independent. How a driver picks such configuration is based on the > > > +format set on a source pad at the end of the device's internal pipeline. > > > + > > > +Most sensor drivers are implemented this way, see e.g. > > > +drivers/media/i2c/imx319.c for an example. > > > + > > > +Frame interval configuration > > > +---------------------------- > > > + > > > +There are two different methods for obtaining possibilities for different frame > > > +intervals as well as configuring the frame interval. Which one to implement > > > +depends on the type of the device. > > > + > > > +Raw camera sensors > > > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > + > > > +Instead of a high level parameter such as frame interval, the frame interval is > > > +a result of the configuration of a number of camera sensor implementation > > > +specific parameters. Luckily, these parameters tend to be the same for more or > > > +less all modern raw camera sensors. > > > + > > > +The frame interval is calculated using the following equation:: > > > + > > > + frame interval = (analogue crop width + horizontal blanking) * > > > + (analogue crop height + vertical blanking) / pixel rate > > > + > > > +The formula is bus independent and is applicable for raw timing parameters on > > > +large variety of devices beyond camera sensors. Devices that have no analogue > > > +crop, use the full source image size, i.e. pixel array size. > > > + > > > +Horizontal and vertical blanking are specified by ``V4L2_CID_HBLANK`` and > > > +``V4L2_CID_VBLANK``, respectively. The unit of these controls are lines. The > > > +pixel rate is specified by ``V4L2_CID_PIXEL_RATE`` in the same sub-device. The > > > +unit of that control is Hz. > > > + > > > +Register list based drivers need to implement read-only sub-device nodes for the > > > +purpose. Devices that are not register list based need these to configure the > > > +device's internal processing pipeline. > > > + > > > +The first entity in the linear pipeline is the pixel array. The pixel array may > > > +be followed by other entities that are there to allow configuring binning, > > > +skipping, scaling or digital crop :ref:`v4l2-subdev-selections`. > > > + > > > +USB cameras etc. devices > > > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > + > > > +USB video class hardware, as well as many cameras offering a higher level > > > +control interface, generally use the concept of frame interval (or frame rate) > > > +on the level of device hardware interface. This means lower level controls > > > +exposed by raw cameras may not be used as an interface to control the frame > > > +interval on these devices. > > > + > > > +Power management > > > +---------------- > > > + > > > +Always use runtime PM to manage the power states of your device. > > > + > > > +Existing camera sensor drivers may rely on the old > > > +:c:type:`v4l2_subdev_core_ops`->s_power() callback for bridge or ISP drivers to > > > +manage their power state. This is however **deprecated**. If you feel you need > > > +to begin calling an s_power from an ISP or a bridge driver, instead please add > > > +runtime PM support to the sensor driver you are using. Likewise, new drivers > > > +should not use s_power. > > > > This should explain how runtime PM should be used. .s_power() provides > > an explicit API to control power of the sensor. From a sensor driver > > In general, how to exactly implement power management is specific to the > driver, and a responsibility of the driver. The sensor drivers are not > special in this respect. Sure, but we're moving away from a model that is well known (.s_power()), how to do so needs to be explained. > > point of view, one may wonder when to call pm_runtime_get(_sync)() and > > pm_runtime_put(_sync)() if there's no explicit operation. From a > > receiver point of view, one may wonder how to control the sensor power > > state. I'm pretty sure someone could try to call the runtime PM get/put > > functions on the struct device corresponding to the sensor from an ISP > > driver. To avoid that, this section needs to explain why explicit power > > management from the ISP side is not needed. > > I can add explicit note on calling runtime PM functions on other devices is > not allowed for this is what the s_power callback did, but this not where > runtime PM should be documented. > > Runtime PM documentation could perhaps be improved but that does not belong > here. Sure, but if you want to deprecate .s_power(), you need to provide precise guidelines on what to do instead. Just saying "use runtime PM" isn't enough, even I wasn't sure how to handle that. > The examples should be helpful for driver writers. > > > > + > > > +Please see examples in e.g. ``drivers/media/i2c/ov8856.c`` and > > > +``drivers/media/i2c/smiapp/smiapp-core.c``. The two drivers work in both ACPI > > > +and DT based systems. > > > + > > > +Control framework > > > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > + > > > +``v4l2_ctrl_handler_setup()`` function may not be used in the device's runtime PM > > > +``resume`` callback currently, as it has no way to figure out the power state of resume or runtime_resume ? > > > +the device. As callback is required to figure out the device's power state, it > > > +can only know when the device is fully powered. This can be done using > > > > I don't understand the previous sentence. > > How about rephrasing it as: > > The callback need to know the device is in ``RPM_ACTIVE`` state, s/need/needs/ s/the device is/if the device is/ ? > and that information is only available after the resume callback > has finished. > > > > + > > > +.. c:function:: > > > + int pm_runtime_get_if_in_use(struct device *dev); > > > + > > > +The function returns a non-zero value if it succeeded getting the power count or > > > +runtime PM was disabled, in either of which cases the driver may proceed to > > > +access the device. > > > > This requires more explanation too, it's not clear to me. > > How about: > > The function returns a non-zero value if the device is in > RPM_ACTIVE state or runtime PM is disabled. The caller is required > to put the usage_count using ``pm_runtime_put()`` or one of its > variants. What is not clear is where to use pm_runtime_get_if_in_use(). You started by saying v4l2_ctrl_handler_setup() can't be used in .runtime_resume(), but where should it be used instead, and how does it relate to pm_runtime_get_if_in_use() ? -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart